CPIM Disowns Mayawati Tag, Turnaround Once Again
Troubled Galaxy Destroyed Dreams: Chapter 33
Palash Biswas
The CPI(M) has said it does not look at in terms of projecting an individual for the prime minister's post, an indication that it was not keen on seeing BSP chief Mayawati in the top post.CPM general secretary Prakash Karat on Thursday made it clear that BSP chief Mayawati was not his party’s choice as PM candidate. He firmly ruled out any post-poll alliance with the UPA.CPM leader stood defiant. He said there is no question of a post-poll tie up with the UPA. He also said that he will support the UNPA in fighting issues like price rise, inflation and the nuclear deal, but will not consider it as a third front. Communist Party of India General Secretary Prakash Karat on Thursday refused any possibility of any party alliance with the United Progressive Alliance even after general elections due next year.
Whether or not the UPA wins the trust vote on July 22, the CPM feels the government’s collapse is only a matter of time.
What a Turnaround!With the Left failing to stop the government from going to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the government winning the trust vote, many Congress leaders had not ruled out an alliance with the Left in the upcoming general elections. And I tell you, the opportunist Marxists may repeat History anytime.
A clever leader like Amar Singh , the master of Horse Trading, landed in Kolkat just yesterday and addressed a press conference with Fire Brand Brahman Leader Ms Mamata. Amar Singh fielded Mamamta against Mayawati. Though a tough bargainer like Amara did not miss to mention that his hear only lies with Sister Mamata but the Mind still remains with the Left!
It is a clear indication of dangers ahead for the Left, a steep decay in High caste vote bank. While the Left is no more that sure about SC, OBC and Muslim Votes in Kearla and Bengal. Tripura has a different demography and the Tripura Marxists have enough causes for enthusiasm for Mayawati!
Only on 25th July, late after midnight I was talking face to face the Marxist Minister in Tripura. The Poet politician, Anil Sarkar claimed that it was a masterstroke and we must welcome the latest Party Line . I explained how I never believed that CPIM could hold this line very longer. I never expected the Marxist turnaround so soon. Anilda has been insisting that Dalit Liberation is only possible with a Marxist line on Ambedkar and Rabindra Nath Tagore. Thus, he runs all the missions on Ambedkar`s name. now, he has launched a Matribhasha Mission campaign all along the North East on a Tagore line of Nationality!
I told,` The Ruling Brahaminical Hegemony in West Bengal and Kerala would never allow Prakash Karat to sustain the tag Mayawati’. Which he disowned so soon!
I asked Anilda,`In West Bengal, fort one percent OBCs have only a single cabinet minister. SC leader Kanti Biswas has been ousted. Upen Kisku ousted. Dinesh Dakua ousted. Narayan Biswas ousted. A duffer Brahman Surya Kant Mishra holds on despite severe failure in Health sector. Kanti Biswas may not be held responsible for the failures in Education. Marxist education policy always has been faulty which always promoted discriminatory education policy with Private Investment, Now education is an affair of purchasing capacity. Marxists never demanded Common Education! Then, a competent minister like Bilasi Bala Sahis was shifted in the district.’
Anilda defended the party and said, ` Kanti Biswas was ousted as the SC society and leadership launched a sustained campaign against him!’
Then, I argued, ` How do you justify the Brahmin front? Three percent micro minority Brahmins have 64 MLAs and 16 cabinet ministers!”
Speaking on the alliances prior to the trust vote in Lok Sabha on July 22, 2008, Karat said, "Mayawati left alliance with the UPA before the Left parties withdrew support to the UPA. Now, we go by what the parties say. They have come out against the nuclear deal and said they would work against the UPA government. It is only after we withdrew support, we said we would contact all the secular parties who are opposed to the nuclear deal and who can stand in vote against the UPA government. As part of that process, I met Mayawati, Deve Gowda, Ajit Singh, leaders of TDP and the UNPA, and then came to a common understanding."
"He (CPI General Secretary A B Bardhan) was asked, do you think she can become PM. He said, Yes why not. That is his way of saying that he has no objection to any particular leader becoming PM. We don't look at in terms of projecting an individual," CPI(M) General Secretary Prakash Karat clarified in Thiruvananthapuram.
Asked if he was saying that Mayawati would not be projected as Prime Minister, he told Malayalam channel "Kairali TV" he said he was not ready to say anything as "it is too premature".
"In this country there have been PMs who people never expected could become prime ministers. And there have been prime ministers who people could not think of as PM turned out to be good prime ministerial material. So why this debate. It is not a meaningful debate," he said.
Anil Sarkar called me every hour during his stay in New Delhi until 28th evening while he informed me that he was leaving for Delhi. Anilda tried his best to convince us, the subaltern Intelligentsia that Karat and Brinda with Sitaram Yechury are very serious on Dalit liberation and we must support this stance. We must support Mayawati as projected Prime Minister Face of the Left!
I explained how it was impossible and what have been the reactions in High caste vote Bank in west Bengal. He was not convinced. Neither he believed that CPIM would not be able to manage damage control after the ouster of the veteran most Marxist Brahmin leader Somnath Chatterjee.
Anilda is never without hope and trying his best to mobilise the subaltern camp in favour of CPIM official line in North India! he called me from Agartala daily and continued the discussion!
On 26th evening, I was debating with some Marxist Senior comrades in Mohan Singh Palace Coffee house. The Marxist comrades defended the party line and claimed that the communists in India, never deviated from Ideology!
Ideology my Foot!
They declared that Somnath was to be expelled!
Pankaj Bisht supported, ` Ideology as well as discipline demanded his ouster!”
I agreed. I never defend the Marxist Brahmins as I know their Faces realty real!
I was away in New Delhi and Kolkata TV telecasted the documentary film on Marichjhanpi on 24th evening. In january 1979, Dalit Refugees were massacred in the Sundervana Island which was never a part of the forest and the Bonafied Indian citizens rehabiliated in different parts of Dandkarany were lured to come in West Bengal to form a favourable vote bank for the Marxists still alluding! Jyoti Basu himself talked to the refugee leaders of all the five refugee camps in MP. The marxist ministers Ram Chatterjee and Kiran Moy Nanda mobilised the massive immigration. Minister Subhash Chakrabarty offered CPIM Umbrella just before the action began. Comrade Buddhadev Bhattacharya as the Police minister monitored the Gestapo action of Blockade and Massacre!
The Marichjhanpi film was to be screened in JNU by Delhi friends and was withheld. It could not be screened.
The document presents all the documents and witnesses and the missing links of the forgotten massacre. a promo was posted on nandigarmunited. blogspot.com, indiainteracts.com and You Tube! It was a online petition demanding Justice!
kolakata High Caste hatred is documented quite Human in Bangla Ntionality and literary disguise. Tara shankar and Sharat Chandra, Sunil Gango, Ateen Bando and Debesh Roy are best examples.It swallowed the Marichjhanpi episode.
Sunil Gango reported the event for Anandbazar at the time and supported the refugees as he was not a communist then. He refused to say anything for the documentary.
Mahasheta Di has to be present in Panel discussion today while the film is being telecasted once again. cable links and electricity supply were snapped in many parts of the state during first screening. Mahasheta di never wrote on refugees and Dalits.
I have a very intimate relationship with didi. She wrote an exclusive write up on my novel AMERICA SE SAVDHAN in Dainik Hindustan and taged me with Legendary Jharkhand Leader AK Roy. She is very affectionate. I was also included in Bhasha Bandhan editorial which I could not bear for the differences on Social realism related to Manusmriti!But most of us learnt everything about Nationality Movement from Mahasheweta Di. She dealt very well the History of indigenous Insurrectons in India. she described the Nandigram insurrection as Dalit Movement.
Ratan Basu Majumdar argued during the earlier private screening of the film on editorial stage that the Intelligentsia Kolkata has to be supporting the demand for Justice!I dismissed the idea as the Kolkata Intelligentsia remained quite detached all these Thirty years.
Ratan da exclaimed,`They might have not known’.
Should I believe this?
Mahashweta Di did all the documentation of Insurrections, Naxalbari and Tebhaga. Could she be so ignorant? She wrote about me in details , on my primary schooling, GIC and Nainital as well as Dhanbad. My friends would never know the details. i did not tell her. but she wrote.
How she did not write anything on refugees and dalits?
Simply because of Hegemony psyche which is inflected in Bengali Brahmin led Indian communist movement from the beginning. The communists may not bear a Dalit face for the Next prime Minister projection.
I failed to convince Anil Sarkar.
My friends in Bengal as well as in new Delhi and countrywide explain Somnath episode as historical Blunder once again.
yes, it was a blunder. I agree.
But it was never a blunder expelling the Brahmin don from the party. The party committed the Historical Blunder while it accepted the post of Speaker and remained in Hamlet Dilemma of TO BE or NOT To Be . It wasted the most vocal Parliamentarian and had to field a novice, Md salim to speak for the party during Trust vote. Adwani easily subverted the Nuclear deal with his rotten Hindutva. My Marxist friends may not digest this argument!
Then, what happened to Hyderabad agenda?
What was all about the Cow belt Escalation strategy?
Anilda and Biman bose have been always involved. i do not talk to any Marxist leaders nowadays but I have discussed all these issues with all Marxist SC, OBC and St leaders so many times and questioned the justification of CPIM launched Dalit and Refugee movement!
Now, you see the developments!
Robin Chakrabarti, a scientist and Tasham organiser informed me in phone that the audience reacted violently as they saw the Marichjhanpi film!
I told,` People do react on Visual media. Be it Devdas, Rang de Basanti, Shole or AAp Hamare Hain Kaun or Nach Le! I am interested in results. What happened next? Did anyone demand to hang Basu? Did the Kolkata Intelligentsia cried for justice after thirty long years!’
Robinda answered,` People are very repenting!’
`So what? you people escaped at that time! Now you are just expressing sentiment and doing nothing! It is a crime! At least, you may demonstrate on Rani Rasmoni Sarani, Metro Channel, before Alimuddin street or Indira Bhavan! Safemost option is a Citizens` convention at least!’
Thus,the brahminical hegemony never breaks!
And anil da expects some space for democratic subaltern movement with his Dalit Agenda!
And his Hero falls miserably!
On the issue of Third Alternative, Karat said hopefully they would be able to present some third force in the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections.
"Be very clear. I didn't use the word Third Alternative. I have not not talked about the Third Alternative. I have not not talked about the Third Alternative....Our party's understanding of the Third Alternative is not some combination to fight elections. The Third Alternative has to be in terms of policies and programmes," he said.
To a question on supporting Congress after the elections for forming a government, Karat said "we are going to call the defeat of BJP and the Congress. And after that if we support the Congress, I don't know, I think people accuse us of opportunism. So why do you think that there can be only either a BJP-led government or a Congress-led government."
Karat said even when the Left supported the government they knew the Congress was wedded to liberalisation policies. But the Left could check privatisation in some sectors while it could not not tolerate serious deviation from the common minimum programme on an issue like the strategic alliance with the US.
To a question whether it was a mistake to have supported the Congress, he said "we made a mistake in believing the commitment of the top leadership of the country including the prime minister. We have to see whether we can put faith in the Congress leadership again."
On the charge that the CPI(M) had once dubbed the BSP as a casteist formation, Karat said all parties except the Left had played the caste card.
"But the assertion of dalit forces is a democratic and an awakening aspect which we must recognise."
Asked why he had always refrained from making critical comments against Congress President Sonia Gandhi, he said they had always criticised the Congress leadership as well as the prime minister.
"Prime Minister, of course is running the government. Leadership cannot be reduced to one individual and is collective."
Karat Thursday indicated it was a mistake to have trusted the Congress leadership and said that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh does not “understand how the Communist party functions”. Apparently regretting the legislative support the CPI-M-led Left parties extended to the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government, Karat declared that there would not be any ties with the Congress in future.
In an interview telecast on Malayalam channel Kairali TV, Karat said both the Congress leadership and the prime minister had assured the Left that they would not go ahead with the India-US civil nuclear deal even if they were allowed to carry forward negotiations on an India specific safeguards agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
“Because they said they will talk and come back… if you object we will not proceed further. Now when the prime minister, the Congress president (Sonia Gandhi) and the Congress leadership give such an assurance, we thought yes, let them go, talk and come back. They are bringing this to the (UPA-Left nuclear) committee. When we object in the committee, they will not proceed. This is the assurance they gave us in November.”
He added that the meeting in which the assurance was given was also attended by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
Asked if the CPI-M had overestimated the trustworthiness of the Congress party he said: “It seems like that.”
Reacting to Manmohan Singh’s remarks that the CPI-M general secretary has “miscalculated” the developments, Karat said: “The bourgeois party leaders look at their (party) practices in which the leader decides everything. They do not understand how the Communist party functions.”
He said emphatically that the Left would continue to combat the government in parliament.
“We are not parties like the DMK, RJD or the NCP. They are part of the UPA along with the Congress party. We cannot have any understanding or alliance with the Congress party… we are in no way bound to support the Congress-led coalition. We will work with all the non-Congress secular parties - the non Congress secular parties who are today not with the BJP or the Congress.”
The CPI-M led Left parties - that withdrew support to the Manmohan Singh government over the India-US civil nuclear deal - have not yet taken a decision on who they would support as a prime ministerial candidate of the non-BJP, non-Congress front, he added.
“We have not decided yet,” Karat said when asked if Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati was their candidate for the top post.
Karat said the Left would enter into an electoral alliance, though he did not want it to be named the ‘third front’.
“I never talked about third alternative. Our party’s understanding of the third alternative is not some combination to fight elections. The third alternative should be in terms of policies and programmes. We don’t consider the UNPA as the third alternative. We told them that this is the alternative we were thinking about.”
On joining hands with Mayawati, a move that had been widely criticised, he said: “Mayawati left the alliance with the UPA before the Left parties withdrew support to it. She had come out of the nuclear deal before we even talked to her. Now, we go by what the parties say. They have come out against the nuclear deal, and said they would work against the UPA government. It is only after we withdrew support that we said we would contact all the secular parties opposed to the nuclear deal and who can stand against the UPA government. As part of that process, I met Mayawati, Deve Gowda, Ajit Singh, leaders of TDP and the UNPA, and then came to a common understanding.”
Predicting that the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government, which won the July 22 trust vote in the Lok Sabha, would face “many roadblocks” in parliament, Karat said the Left would continue to combat the government in both houses.
He pointed out that the government did not have a majority in the upper house and would face troubles in the Lok Sabha - where the Left has 59 MPs - when it came to the passage of financial bills.
“We would like to use (such occasions) effectively to combat the government,” he told the channel.
Chautala's INLD rejects Mayawati as PM candidate
JAIPUR: Showing signs of differences within the UNPA on the issue of leadership of Mayawati, the INLD has ruled out the BSP chief as its prime ministerial candidate.
"No to the proposal of her as PM," INLD general secretary Ajay Chautala told reporters here yesterday on a question whether INLD could join hands with BSP and project Mayawati as the future prime minister.
Chautala, however was not adverse to forge a pre-poll alliance with BSP during elections in the states.
INLD was contemplating pre-poll alliance with any of the UNPA members and would field over 100 candidates in the polls, he said.
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He also said Rajasthan should have a farmer as its next Chief Minister.
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Dr Lenin Raghuvanshi, the convener of PVCHR, raised his voice for the upliftment of Dalit community. His views were on caste based exploitation, discrimination and social change that took shape while he worked with child labourers and bonded labourers.
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DR LENIN Raghuvanshi is an icon in Uttar Pradesh among the Dalit community and the victims of caste based discrimination, torture and other types of exploitations. Lenin is convener of Peoples Vigilance Committee on Human Rights (PVCHR). PVCHR was founded in 1996, with the objective of making child labour free villages. Lenin learned by working from the beginning that, structure of village in India is the ring of exploitation. His views on caste based exploitation, discrimination and social change took shape while he worked with child labourers and bonded labourers. He realised that caste, not class, was at work.
By the end of 1996, Lenin was championing the rights of lower-caste people. Early experiences taught him that confrontation was dangerous and not the most effective method. Increasingly, Lenin recognised caste in all kinds of social conflict and envisioned a movement that could break the closed, feudal hierarchies of conservative slums and villages by building up local institutions and supporting them with a high profile and active human rights network.
Instead of tampering with the symptoms, caste needed to be tackled by both its horns. On the one hand, he created a democratised structure for the voiceless to enable them access to the constitutional guarantees of modern India and on the other, his innovative advocacy forced the state’to sensitise its mechanisms to deliver social justice in a manner where justice is not only done, but perceived to be done.
Ensuring implementation of policy into practice regarding this, Lenin has initiated Jan Mitra Gaon, or the people-friendly village. These villages have durable local institutions that work to promote basic human rights in the face of continuous discrimination. Lenin has adopted three villages and one slum initially, which include reactivating defunct primary schools, eliminating bonded labour, promoting girls to get education. The approach of the organisation is two-fold: To have a strong grassroots organisation to work for democratic rights of those in marginalised communities and second, to create the structure and dynamics to receive the assistance of national and international institutions.
Lenin’s work marks a shift in the Indian human rights movement, which has been reluctant to address injustices in the name of caste as a fundamental human rights issue. He is one of only a handful of activists to declare that such discrimination goes against democratic principles by promoting inequality. By working from Varanasi in UP–one of the most traditional, conservative, and segregated regions in India–Lenin demonstrates his resolve.
With meagre resources, but rich with confidence and conviction, Lenin in a short period of time has managed to amplify the voice of the marginalised in national and international forums through “Peoples SAARC”, rehabilitation and resettlement of weavers of Varanasi; Benaras Convention; UP Assembly election watch; prevention of torture; voice against hunger and many such activities. Recognition by the international community of Dr Lenin’s work is indeed the recognition for the millions whose hopes and aspirations rest on his slender shoulders.
Be ready for coalitions, Mayawati tells BSP
27 Jul, 2008, 2035 hrs IST, IANS
LUCKNOW: Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati Sunday told party MPs and ministers about the importance and usefulness of coalition governments, party sources said.
Mayawati said the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) should be ready to accept a pre-poll alliance taking into account the fast changing scenario in national politics, the sources added.
The chief minister also called upon party activists to convince Muslims about the correctness of BSP's stand over the India-US nuclear deal.
"We need to inform Muslims that by opposing the nuclear deal, we supported them and protected their rights," a party leader said.
Mayawati also directed district coordinators of BSP to bring active members of their respective regions to the party's national convention to be organised here Aug 9.
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Serial Blasts & Corrupt Police
Serial Blasts & Corrupt Police
Serial bombs are most deplorable assault on civilization. Two serial bomb blasts rocked two Industrial Cities yet again and as usual L.K. Advani demanded introduction that was withdrawn due its abuse. TV channels had adequately covered the incidents. Callousness of police is illustrated by the car bomb explosion at Civil Hospital where most of the victims were brought- even this area was not protected.
Here are clippings of how Gujarat police functions. The dalit girl who was serially raped by male teachers and administrators of the teachers training college came to ligh only after the mob attacked the rapists gang. It was only after the press and TV media exposed the criminals on global channels complaints were registered and arrests made.
Now the victim is being harassed and FORCED by magistrate to appear in court every day. In spite all the trauma she scored well in exams. Since victim had recorded her statement and identified the accused why she is made to appear in court on every hearing than let her over come trauma and pursue her studies & carrier.
But most dramatic is the case of Ms. Jaimini Vyas fighting several cases just because she is not getting justice due Corrupt Lawyers their Nexus with criminals. Even her complaints are disregarded.
Asaram case too was being hushed up and only after the persistent agitation by the entire community for a fortnight, state government woke up only when media was attacked by Asaram and it became too hot to contain.
Two other important cases of Corruption & Abuse were reported in press of police conniving in framing a businessman in drug case and custodial death of the father of a boy who eloped with his girl. No forensic experts was called to investigate death in lock up.
Not just in Gujarat, Delhi has 50 policemen per square kilometer but none is seen on the road except at VIP bungalows and invariably arrive 30 minutes after the incident or accidents when the criminals are out of Delhi city limits.
Gujarat police couldn’t first prevent terrorist plant bombs on cycles and even after bombs started exploding none was detected by police and it was public alertness that defused one or two bombs.
Transparency International has labeled police as most corrupt, is also incompetent, fabricate false cases with corrupt lawyers and judiciary contribute to lawless society and terrorist escape every time.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
Accused in fake drugs case finally arrested
TIMES NEWS NETWORK July26, 2008 P-8
Vadodara: A local builder, Krishna Somani, who was accused of planting drugs in the house of a local businessman Prakash Pillai two years ago, was finally arrested on Friday. Somani had allegedly planted drugs in Pillai’s house with the help of a few cops.
Somani was already in judicial custody in connection with a double-murder case since last year. The CID had obtained an arrest warrant of Somani in March this year but the then investigating officials stated that they were collecting evidence against him.
“We have taken his remand to know who all are involved in the case other than Somani. We also want to know how they hatched the conspiracy and from where did they source the drugs,” said deputy superintendent of police Bhagirathsinh Jadeja.
Apart from Somani, two cops, R M Rathod and K V Vahoniya, have also been accused in the same case. Both Rathod and Vahoniya, then police inspectors of Wadi and Gorwa police stations, respectively, had allegedly planted drugs in Pillai’s house in April 2006. Pillai, who wasn’t around when the police raided his residence, had immediately filed a complaint.
According to Pillai, the cops had sent bags of wheat and rice at his residence in Gorwa and planted drugs with it. The Wadi police raided his house soon after and filed an FIR against him under NDPS Act.
Pillai said Somani was to pay few crores of rupees to a steel company and he was playing the role of a mediator. When Pillai pressurized Somani to pay up the money, Somani decided to frame him in a false narcotics case with the help of Rathod and Vahoniya.
Rathod’s complicity with Somani came to light after the latter’s mobile calls were traced when he was re-arrested in 2007. Somani had even jumped parole in 2004.
Bailable warrant issued against Patan rape victim
TIMES NEWS NETWORK July25, 2008 P-3
Ahmedabad: The Patan fast track court that is hearing DIET-PTC multiple gangrape case on Thursday issued a bailable warrant against the victim girl on her remaining absent in the court during the scheduled hearing.
Judge SC Srivastav issued warrant because the victim was supposed to remain present during hearing, and she didn’t turn up without any reason. The court was reluctant to accept the argument from the girl’s advocate that a proceeding is going on in Gujarat High Court with regard to the revision application by some of the accused teachers. But the court observed that there was no excuse on part of the victim girl, who had to appear before the court as a witness for examination-inchief, because apparently there was no stay order by the High Court on the lower court’s proceedings. The court has kept further hearing in the case on Monday, when the girl is asked to remain present for recording of her statement.
Earlier, the victim remained absent on a couple of occasions on the ground that she was not keeping well. Then also, the court had sought the medical certificate from hospital authorities about the victim’s health condition. During a proceeding, the girl even collapsed in the courtroom only, and it resulted in adjournment in hearing.
Bar Council to catch nagging clients on tape
Council Will Videotape Proceedings Of Clients Who File Repeated Complaints
Saeed Khan | TNN July25, 2008 P-4
Ahmedabad: If you are aggrieved by something, you can go to court. Lawyers will help you out. If you are annoyed with your lawyer for messing up your case, you can approach the Bar Council to lodge a complaint against the advocate. But what if the Bar is frustrated after repeated complaints against itself from a client? Well, it cannot do much. Hence, the Gujarat Bar Council decided to videotape proceedings of clients who filed repeated complaints.
The Bar Council has been conducting proceedings before its disciplinary committee in camera in the case of one Jaimini Vyas. The woman is fighting a legal battle in the metropolitan court for quite some time along with many other petitions she has filed in many courts (from metropolitan to the High Court). In one of these petitions, she found her lawyer not working hard enough on her case and filed a complaint against him in the Bar Council, alleging him of professional misconduct.
The Bar Council then set up a three lawyer panel to initiate disciplinary action against Vyas’s advocate. However, the woman was not content with the way the proceedings were on and complained before Bar Council of India. She even filed an application in Gujarat High Court and has been arguing the case for herself. The court directed the Bar Council to expedite proceedings.
The Bar Council was so wearied with complaints pouring in from Vyas that it changed the panel of advocates dealing with her complaints. But fearing that Vyas may file more complaints, Bar Council president Rajendra Trivedi ordered that her proceedings should take place in camera to “control” the complainant from making repeated allegations. “When you have video recording as an evidence, it can control the behaviour of the client. And the proceedings, too, go smoothly when people know that their movement is video recorded,” Trivedi said.
Chairman of the enrolment committee Anil Kella said the Bar Council decided to record the case of Vyas after she made allegations against the office-bearers of being prejudiced in her case. “We changed the panel on her complaint, but then realized that she did not stop. Like in this case, we have decided to place cameras during proceedings of disgruntled clients,” he explained.
Cops Claim Rajput Killed Self Using Kerchief; Rubbish, Says Kin
Prashant Dayal | TNN July24, P-3
Ahmedabad: Can a man commit suicide with his handkerchief ? Mahesh Singh Rajput, 53, a BSNL employee, actually did. That too inside the Sarkhej police station’s lock-up! At least, that is what the police wants us to believe.
While the Sarkhej police are at pains to convince everyone that this is a case of suicide, Mahesh’s family members are crying murder. They assert that this is a case of custodial death caused by police brutality. Mahesh was picked up by a team of Sarkhej police station officials on July 14 from his workplace, a plastic factory. Two days later, police called up his native place—Trikamgad in Madhya Pradesh—to intimate his kin about the death.
This, despite the fact that Mahesh’s wife and son stay in Gota. Mahesh’s kin now feel the police may have killed him. “How can a handkerchief be used in suicide?” asked the deceased’s nephew Dhirendra Singh Rajput. He has written a letter to the DGP, Gujarat, alleging that police killed his uncle. He has demanded a second postmortem and complaint of murder against the police. Till this happens, he said, “We will not take custody of my uncle’s body.”
Sarkhej police inspector J D Trivedi, however, said, “Mahesh was an accused in a kidnapping case and so we arrested him. He committed suicide with the help of a handkerchief in the lock-up. The reason for this is unknown. We are still to arrest his wife and younger son in the case.”
Rajput was employed as a workman in BSNL, Vasna unit, for the past 30 years. Mahesh, his wife and two sons were staying at Gota Housing Colony. A year-and-a-half back, Mahesh’s elder son Jitendra, a driver, eloped with a minor girl. The two are still traceable.
The girl’s father lodged a complaint at Sarkhej police station against Jitendra and his family, accusing them of kidnap. Sarkhej police had then nabbed Mahesh and his younger son, but released them later. In the meantime, Mahesh’s mother died at his native place, so he rushed home. A property dispute arose and Mahesh’s elder brother was killed. Mahesh was jailed along with many others for 10 months.
Mahesh returned to city in February to resume work at BSNL but had to wait due to his absence. He then joined a factory in Gota from where he was picked up.
HOLES IN COPS’ SUICIDE THEORY
Cops say Rajput tied one end of handkerchief to his neck and the other to the lock-up’s metal grill. He then strangled himself by pushing himself away from the door. This storyline seems suspicious and the technique employed bizarre too.
Secondly, any person trying to strangulate himself would lose consciousness, and that would have defeated the purpose.
If this was suicide, why were forensic experts not called to check for circumstantial proof and position of Rajput’s body?
Any person, before being kept in police lock-up, is thoroughly searched. Articles that can be used to harm self are always taken away.
To commit suicide, a big handkerchief would have been needed. How did it come inside lock-up? Lock-up was empty, so why was no police guard keeping watch?
Serial bombs are most deplorable assault on civilization. Two serial bomb blasts rocked two Industrial Cities yet again and as usual L.K. Advani demanded introduction that was withdrawn due its abuse. TV channels had adequately covered the incidents. Callousness of police is illustrated by the car bomb explosion at Civil Hospital where most of the victims were brought- even this area was not protected.
Here are clippings of how Gujarat police functions. The dalit girl who was serially raped by male teachers and administrators of the teachers training college came to ligh only after the mob attacked the rapists gang. It was only after the press and TV media exposed the criminals on global channels complaints were registered and arrests made.
Now the victim is being harassed and FORCED by magistrate to appear in court every day. In spite all the trauma she scored well in exams. Since victim had recorded her statement and identified the accused why she is made to appear in court on every hearing than let her over come trauma and pursue her studies & carrier.
But most dramatic is the case of Ms. Jaimini Vyas fighting several cases just because she is not getting justice due Corrupt Lawyers their Nexus with criminals. Even her complaints are disregarded.
Asaram case too was being hushed up and only after the persistent agitation by the entire community for a fortnight, state government woke up only when media was attacked by Asaram and it became too hot to contain.
Two other important cases of Corruption & Abuse were reported in press of police conniving in framing a businessman in drug case and custodial death of the father of a boy who eloped with his girl. No forensic experts was called to investigate death in lock up.
Not just in Gujarat, Delhi has 50 policemen per square kilometer but none is seen on the road except at VIP bungalows and invariably arrive 30 minutes after the incident or accidents when the criminals are out of Delhi city limits.
Gujarat police couldn’t first prevent terrorist plant bombs on cycles and even after bombs started exploding none was detected by police and it was public alertness that defused one or two bombs.
Transparency International has labeled police as most corrupt, is also incompetent, fabricate false cases with corrupt lawyers and judiciary contribute to lawless society and terrorist escape every time.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
Accused in fake drugs case finally arrested
TIMES NEWS NETWORK July26, 2008 P-8
Vadodara: A local builder, Krishna Somani, who was accused of planting drugs in the house of a local businessman Prakash Pillai two years ago, was finally arrested on Friday. Somani had allegedly planted drugs in Pillai’s house with the help of a few cops.
Somani was already in judicial custody in connection with a double-murder case since last year. The CID had obtained an arrest warrant of Somani in March this year but the then investigating officials stated that they were collecting evidence against him.
“We have taken his remand to know who all are involved in the case other than Somani. We also want to know how they hatched the conspiracy and from where did they source the drugs,” said deputy superintendent of police Bhagirathsinh Jadeja.
Apart from Somani, two cops, R M Rathod and K V Vahoniya, have also been accused in the same case. Both Rathod and Vahoniya, then police inspectors of Wadi and Gorwa police stations, respectively, had allegedly planted drugs in Pillai’s house in April 2006. Pillai, who wasn’t around when the police raided his residence, had immediately filed a complaint.
According to Pillai, the cops had sent bags of wheat and rice at his residence in Gorwa and planted drugs with it. The Wadi police raided his house soon after and filed an FIR against him under NDPS Act.
Pillai said Somani was to pay few crores of rupees to a steel company and he was playing the role of a mediator. When Pillai pressurized Somani to pay up the money, Somani decided to frame him in a false narcotics case with the help of Rathod and Vahoniya.
Rathod’s complicity with Somani came to light after the latter’s mobile calls were traced when he was re-arrested in 2007. Somani had even jumped parole in 2004.
Bailable warrant issued against Patan rape victim
TIMES NEWS NETWORK July25, 2008 P-3
Ahmedabad: The Patan fast track court that is hearing DIET-PTC multiple gangrape case on Thursday issued a bailable warrant against the victim girl on her remaining absent in the court during the scheduled hearing.
Judge SC Srivastav issued warrant because the victim was supposed to remain present during hearing, and she didn’t turn up without any reason. The court was reluctant to accept the argument from the girl’s advocate that a proceeding is going on in Gujarat High Court with regard to the revision application by some of the accused teachers. But the court observed that there was no excuse on part of the victim girl, who had to appear before the court as a witness for examination-inchief, because apparently there was no stay order by the High Court on the lower court’s proceedings. The court has kept further hearing in the case on Monday, when the girl is asked to remain present for recording of her statement.
Earlier, the victim remained absent on a couple of occasions on the ground that she was not keeping well. Then also, the court had sought the medical certificate from hospital authorities about the victim’s health condition. During a proceeding, the girl even collapsed in the courtroom only, and it resulted in adjournment in hearing.
Bar Council to catch nagging clients on tape
Council Will Videotape Proceedings Of Clients Who File Repeated Complaints
Saeed Khan | TNN July25, 2008 P-4
Ahmedabad: If you are aggrieved by something, you can go to court. Lawyers will help you out. If you are annoyed with your lawyer for messing up your case, you can approach the Bar Council to lodge a complaint against the advocate. But what if the Bar is frustrated after repeated complaints against itself from a client? Well, it cannot do much. Hence, the Gujarat Bar Council decided to videotape proceedings of clients who filed repeated complaints.
The Bar Council has been conducting proceedings before its disciplinary committee in camera in the case of one Jaimini Vyas. The woman is fighting a legal battle in the metropolitan court for quite some time along with many other petitions she has filed in many courts (from metropolitan to the High Court). In one of these petitions, she found her lawyer not working hard enough on her case and filed a complaint against him in the Bar Council, alleging him of professional misconduct.
The Bar Council then set up a three lawyer panel to initiate disciplinary action against Vyas’s advocate. However, the woman was not content with the way the proceedings were on and complained before Bar Council of India. She even filed an application in Gujarat High Court and has been arguing the case for herself. The court directed the Bar Council to expedite proceedings.
The Bar Council was so wearied with complaints pouring in from Vyas that it changed the panel of advocates dealing with her complaints. But fearing that Vyas may file more complaints, Bar Council president Rajendra Trivedi ordered that her proceedings should take place in camera to “control” the complainant from making repeated allegations. “When you have video recording as an evidence, it can control the behaviour of the client. And the proceedings, too, go smoothly when people know that their movement is video recorded,” Trivedi said.
Chairman of the enrolment committee Anil Kella said the Bar Council decided to record the case of Vyas after she made allegations against the office-bearers of being prejudiced in her case. “We changed the panel on her complaint, but then realized that she did not stop. Like in this case, we have decided to place cameras during proceedings of disgruntled clients,” he explained.
Cops Claim Rajput Killed Self Using Kerchief; Rubbish, Says Kin
Prashant Dayal | TNN July24, P-3
Ahmedabad: Can a man commit suicide with his handkerchief ? Mahesh Singh Rajput, 53, a BSNL employee, actually did. That too inside the Sarkhej police station’s lock-up! At least, that is what the police wants us to believe.
While the Sarkhej police are at pains to convince everyone that this is a case of suicide, Mahesh’s family members are crying murder. They assert that this is a case of custodial death caused by police brutality. Mahesh was picked up by a team of Sarkhej police station officials on July 14 from his workplace, a plastic factory. Two days later, police called up his native place—Trikamgad in Madhya Pradesh—to intimate his kin about the death.
This, despite the fact that Mahesh’s wife and son stay in Gota. Mahesh’s kin now feel the police may have killed him. “How can a handkerchief be used in suicide?” asked the deceased’s nephew Dhirendra Singh Rajput. He has written a letter to the DGP, Gujarat, alleging that police killed his uncle. He has demanded a second postmortem and complaint of murder against the police. Till this happens, he said, “We will not take custody of my uncle’s body.”
Sarkhej police inspector J D Trivedi, however, said, “Mahesh was an accused in a kidnapping case and so we arrested him. He committed suicide with the help of a handkerchief in the lock-up. The reason for this is unknown. We are still to arrest his wife and younger son in the case.”
Rajput was employed as a workman in BSNL, Vasna unit, for the past 30 years. Mahesh, his wife and two sons were staying at Gota Housing Colony. A year-and-a-half back, Mahesh’s elder son Jitendra, a driver, eloped with a minor girl. The two are still traceable.
The girl’s father lodged a complaint at Sarkhej police station against Jitendra and his family, accusing them of kidnap. Sarkhej police had then nabbed Mahesh and his younger son, but released them later. In the meantime, Mahesh’s mother died at his native place, so he rushed home. A property dispute arose and Mahesh’s elder brother was killed. Mahesh was jailed along with many others for 10 months.
Mahesh returned to city in February to resume work at BSNL but had to wait due to his absence. He then joined a factory in Gota from where he was picked up.
HOLES IN COPS’ SUICIDE THEORY
Cops say Rajput tied one end of handkerchief to his neck and the other to the lock-up’s metal grill. He then strangled himself by pushing himself away from the door. This storyline seems suspicious and the technique employed bizarre too.
Secondly, any person trying to strangulate himself would lose consciousness, and that would have defeated the purpose.
If this was suicide, why were forensic experts not called to check for circumstantial proof and position of Rajput’s body?
Any person, before being kept in police lock-up, is thoroughly searched. Articles that can be used to harm self are always taken away.
To commit suicide, a big handkerchief would have been needed. How did it come inside lock-up? Lock-up was empty, so why was no police guard keeping watch?
POTA Ready Cops of Narindra Modi Contracted for Rs. 2500 P.M.
POTA Ready Cops of Narindra Modi Contracted for Rs. 2500 P.M.
This is unbelievable story of how Gujarat government believes Cops recruited to fight terrorists and implement POTA are themselves exploited – are engaged for Rs.2500 per month ($60 per month) wages on contract.
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/ Ahmedabad Edition P-9 July27, 2008
Let me tell you they may not be actually getting even Rs.1500 per month when considering bribes of few lakhs paid to get these contracts and commissions of the contracting company.
The homes declared unfit for regular police force and vacated are allotted to them.
Any earthquake half power as Bhuj could kill them with their family members.
Farm labor in Punjab is paid 2-3 times more than Modi Cops.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
Cops live in “condemned” houses risking their lives
Hitarth Pandya | TNN July27, 2008 P-9
Surat: In a shocking revelation, cops who are recruited on contract are staying in houses after police declared them “dangerous” to live in after they turned into shambles in the ravaging floods of 2006.
But, today these “condemned” houses offer shelter to many families and bachelors who have joined the police force on contract.
A senior official said that the houses were declared dangerous to live in initially but had been “repaired” and handed over to the cops and their family members. But, when TOI visited the colony, the houses which were said to be repaired were in devastating condition.
Those staying in these houses are working on contract and are paid a meagre salary of Rs 2,500 per month. The residents admitted that though they are not eligible to stay in these houses, they were permitted on humanitarian ground by a senior official who was in-charge of the police headquarters.
“The houses have leaking roofs, cracks on walls and no facility of drinking water. The amount which we are being paid is peanuts and not sufficient enough to buy one month’s ration. With so low a salary, can we think of living in a rented accommodation?” a policeman asked.
Another policeman said, “We don’t even complain about dangerous living conditions because if it comes to the notice of the senior officials, then we would be asked to vacate.” Assistant commissioner of police AA Gupta when questioned about the condition of the houses said, “In October I was told that the houses were declared condemned. But, after personal inspection I realised that the houses could be used after minor repair works which were carried out subsequently.”
This is unbelievable story of how Gujarat government believes Cops recruited to fight terrorists and implement POTA are themselves exploited – are engaged for Rs.2500 per month ($60 per month) wages on contract.
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/ Ahmedabad Edition P-9 July27, 2008
Let me tell you they may not be actually getting even Rs.1500 per month when considering bribes of few lakhs paid to get these contracts and commissions of the contracting company.
The homes declared unfit for regular police force and vacated are allotted to them.
Any earthquake half power as Bhuj could kill them with their family members.
Farm labor in Punjab is paid 2-3 times more than Modi Cops.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
Cops live in “condemned” houses risking their lives
Hitarth Pandya | TNN July27, 2008 P-9
Surat: In a shocking revelation, cops who are recruited on contract are staying in houses after police declared them “dangerous” to live in after they turned into shambles in the ravaging floods of 2006.
But, today these “condemned” houses offer shelter to many families and bachelors who have joined the police force on contract.
A senior official said that the houses were declared dangerous to live in initially but had been “repaired” and handed over to the cops and their family members. But, when TOI visited the colony, the houses which were said to be repaired were in devastating condition.
Those staying in these houses are working on contract and are paid a meagre salary of Rs 2,500 per month. The residents admitted that though they are not eligible to stay in these houses, they were permitted on humanitarian ground by a senior official who was in-charge of the police headquarters.
“The houses have leaking roofs, cracks on walls and no facility of drinking water. The amount which we are being paid is peanuts and not sufficient enough to buy one month’s ration. With so low a salary, can we think of living in a rented accommodation?” a policeman asked.
Another policeman said, “We don’t even complain about dangerous living conditions because if it comes to the notice of the senior officials, then we would be asked to vacate.” Assistant commissioner of police AA Gupta when questioned about the condition of the houses said, “In October I was told that the houses were declared condemned. But, after personal inspection I realised that the houses could be used after minor repair works which were carried out subsequently.”
Text of L.K. Advani Speech
Text of L.K. Advani Speech
SHRI L.K. ADVANI (GANDHINAGAR):
Hon. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the Motion just now moved by the Prime Minister. Obviously, even though he said that this would be an opportunity for the House to consider the totality of this Government’s performance during the last four years, not merely on the issue on the basis of which this Government has been reduced to a minority, but the totality of the performance of this Government would be debated today and tomorrow.
I remember all earlier cases where a Confidence Motion has been moved and almost invariably the Prime Minister initiated the debate by giving a resume of the performance. The Prime Minister certainly is free to choose to reply to the debate, and in the beginning make brief observations as he has made.
Let me, at the out set, say that the focus, first of all, in the House should be why this debate has become necessary. Normally, the issue of the nuclear deal was going on for two years. It was last August, in 2007, that for the first time I got an impression that the Government had now made up its mind to part company with the Left, when a Correspondent of a Kolkata daily was asked to publish prominently on the front-page that so far as the US-India Nuclear Deal is concerned, the Government has taken a decision which is non-negotiable and if the Left does not approve of it, they are free to do what they want. At that point itself, I felt that what has happened all of a sudden. But that stage continued from August last till today as a result of which I had often to say that to me it appears that the Government is paralyzed; there is nothing else excepting the deal that is being talked of.
When the Prime Minister just now said that this was a time when we should have addressed problems of inflation, prices, which are affecting the common man instead of having this, I feel surprised that it is for nearly one year that this controversy over the nuclear deal has been going on between the Government and the Left. Frankly, let me, at the outset, say that I do not agree with the Left, on many matters we differ very widely, but on this particular matter, I would say that if the Government has become destabilized today and this kind of Confidence Vote had to be sought from the Parliament exactly, as he said, four years and two months later after it took charge – it was on the 22nd of May, 2004 that this Government was sworn-in – it faces today the likelihood of being voted out. … (Interruptions)
I have said, “Likelihood of being voted outâ€, and no one can take objection to that. After all, there are people who are making assertions that this is going to happen; so many votes are going to be cast this way or that way. I have not said that. The possibility and the likelihood of being voted out cannot be denied by anyone.
It is like saying, as I have said again and again, that the UPA Government today is like a patient in the ICU room. If anyone talks about that patient, the first question naturally asked is, “Is he going to survive or not?â€
Sir, therefore, I start with saying that this situation has not been brought about by the Opposition; not by the NDA; not even by the Leftists with whom I disagree otherwise. Today, this particular Confidence Motion is being debated just a few months before the General Elections are due where the people will get an opportunity of deciding whether this Government should continue or not, even if it survives tomorrow. …
The reason is that situation has been invited for itself by the Government itself. Mr. Prime Minister, I am sorry to say, by you personally. When you started that particular The Telegraph interview last year, you started it. After having started it, why say that only because of this particular distraction – I saw a statement of yours which called this a ‘particular distraction’ – you are not able to deal with prices, you are not able to deal with the issues of the common man? Please do not say that.
We have not destabilized the Government. Even the Communists had been prolonging the whole matter trying to find a way out. You invented the device of a Joint UPA-Left Committee and you had your senior-most Minister Pranab Mukherjee preside over it. That senior-most Minister assured that Committee that you will go to the IAEA with our safeguards only after you had taken their consent. Today we are told that you had said that you would go there and you would go to the NSG, and then come back to them. I do not know! They will be able to say that. I have seen so many statements categorically assuring them as well as the country that we must not go there until this has happened. So much so that even in respect of this Confidence Motion Shri Pranab Mukherjee himself publicly said that before taking a vote of confidence from the House, the Government would not go to the IAEA, and that he was saying that after having spoken to the Prime Minister on phone. This
is what he said. And suddenly we found that the draft had been sent there.
When this Committee and the Leftists asked him to let them see the draft, he said, “It is classified. You cannot see itâ€. The members of the IAEA from the other countries of the world can see it but not the Indian Parliament! Therefore, someone asked, “Who has classified it? Is it the Government of India? Is it the IAEA? Is it Washington? Who has classified it? We want to know?†All these questions had been there.
Therefore, I am saying, please don’t blame anyone else for having had this kind of Session. At least in my memory, there has never been a Session like this before. It is the first time in the history of the Indian Parliament a Special Session of two days just to discuss whether this minority Government should be allowed to continue or not. Therefore, don’t blame anyone else. If anyone is to be blamed, it is your Government. In a way, you personally, and of course, the Congress Party President, without her approval, you would not be able to take a single step.
Of course, we, in the Opposition. would like to defeat the Government on the floor of the House. But I draw distinction between defeating and destabilizing. It is not in our nature to destabilize an elected Government. It is not in our nature, you may do it; you have done it with Chandra Shekhar; you have done it with Deve Gowda; you have done it with I.K. Gujral; and you have done it with Vajpayee in 1999 when we were defeated just by one vote, and that too a vote of a person who had ceased to be an MP, and became a Chief Minister in another State. Therefore, I am drawing a distinction between defeating a Government and destabilizing the Government.
Sir, I can claim to have seen all the Prime Ministers since Independence; almost all the Governments since 1947 or rather since 1950, after the enactment of the Indian Constitution - first as a journalist from the Press Gallery, and later, as a political activist and since nearly four decades as a Member of Parliament. I can say that I have seen short-lived Governments; I have seen instable Governments; but I have never seen a Government so paralyzed for such a long time.
There is nothing else except the Deal; there is nothing else except the continuous meetings between the Left and the Government; and making everyone think – will it survive or will it not survive. Nowadays it is said that the nuclear deal is in the best interest of the nation and they have been making an appeal again and again to me and my Party saying that we talk about the national interest and so, why we are not supporting the Deal. My answer is that if the Government really thought that this was very important, then why is it that their Common Minimum Programme did not even mention it and why is it that even the manifesto of the Congress Party did not even mention it? What has happened? Has it become suddenly very important?
Mr. Prime Minister, sometimes, I feel that the Deal is not a deal between two sovereign countries; it seems to me to be a kind of an agreement between two individuals and if one of the individuals happens to be the Prime Minister of our country, he thinks that nothing else is more important than to fulfil this agreement. Frankly, Mr. Prime Minister, it does not give me happiness to find that a Deal is being gone into in a way which makes India a junior partner in the agreement.
I do not want the world to be a unipolar world as it has become now. No. It must be a multipolar world and in that multipolar world, I want to see India as the principal pole; and in order to be a principal pole, you cannot agree that these countries are nuclear weapon States whereas India is permanently a non-nuclear weapon State; and this is in the agreement. This is not only in the agreement, but also even in the proposed draft sent to the IAEA; it is on the basis of a chapter which relates to the non-nuclear weapon States.
My colleague in the other House, Shri Arun Shourie has made an elaborate and a very detailed study of it and he has written so much about it; I do not want to go into it because I feel that today’s issue is not the nuclear Deal so much as why this Government had been reduced to a minority and whether the manner in which it is trying to become a majority today by accumulating votes is really right – and on that basis the House should decide on the motion that has been moved by the Prime Minister – or not.
My complaint is that the UPA Government, the present Prime Minister and the Congress chief do not believe in the so-called coalition dharma. Shri Vajpayee was the head of the NDA. I do not know how many of you know that in this country, among the political parties, perhaps the BJP, the earlier Jan Sangh, has been the only one which consistently, since the 1960s, after China became a nuclear power and had its first blast at Lop Nur, has been saying that we should decide on India also becoming a nuclear weapon State; this is since 1964.
So, when in 1998 we formed the NDA, most of our colleagues and most of our partners in the NDA were not of the same view. None of them had this particular item in their manifesto. But we discussed it with them. They said that they did not agree with some of our other points in the manifesto of BJP, but so far as making India a nuclear weapon State is concerned, they agreed with it. Therefore, they had no objection in including it in the Common Minimum Programme which we described as the National Agenda for Governance.. Only after they agreed, we went ahead with it. This is what I would describe as ‘following the coalition dharma’.
Having done it, Shri Vajpayee who was sworn in on the 19th March 1998, did not take even two months to complete the task that he had undertaken; and on the 11th May, we had the Pokhran II.
These are all facts which are necessary to understand. My stress is that if the coalition dharma had been followed this Motion would not have been necessary. They could have continued in a state of paralysis right up to the elections. What was the difficulty!
Sir, they have their own problems. They are not very eager to face elections. At the same time they did not destabilize you. They were willing to allow you to continue but you invited it for yourself and having invited it, please do not call it a distraction. It is a part of the Constitutional Parliamentary system. Every Government must be in a position to prove its majority in the Lok Sabha. It is certainly an irony that for the first time the Prime Minister himself would not be able to vote for his own Motion.
THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE): Did Shri I.K. Gujral vote for the Confidence Motion? Did Shri Devegowda vote for the Confidence Motion?
I am not talking about Shri Gujral or Shri Devegowda.… (Interruptions)
Mr. Prime Minister, you should not have gone to the IAEA stealthily in this manner. It is said that it is on auto-pilot. Formally from the Government side, it is planted in a newspaper that whether they sink or survive the Deal is done. This is the news item published in a newspaper. I do not know. I would expect on this occasion the Government to enlighten us whether this is true that now the Parliament has become irrelevant; whether the Indian Parliament gives a Vote of Confidence to the Government or not.… (Interruptions) We are discussing it but even before the discussion began a news item appeared in a newspaper. Should I quote it exactly? I think everybody knows it. Authoritative sources from the Government told The Telegraph – once again The Telegraph was chosen – that sink or survive, the Deal is done. It was told that whether this Government wins the Confidence Vote or not, the Deal is done. It will go on auto-pilot. My own
feeling is it is not true. My own feeling is that the Government of America, the Congress of America particularly, will not disregard the fact whether the UPA Government, which is a party to this Deal, is in Office, commands the confidence of the Parliament or not. It would be important to America which is also a democracy.
Let me at this point say that we are not against nuclear energy. Very often it is being projected that if we are against the Nuclear Deal it means that we are against the nuclear energy. No, we are not. We are not against our very close relationship with America. I may differ from the Communists on this issue. We have no objection to having strategic relationship with America, Russia or Japan. These are issues on which I would think that a country like India, which is the largest democracy in the world, should have a very close relationship with the strongest democracy of the world, that is America. So far as BJP and NDA are concerned, we are not at all opposed to having a relationship with America. But irrespective of how strong or how powerful the other country is, we would never like India to become party to an Agreement which is unequal.
My charge is that this particular Deal makes us subservient partner in the Deal. Very often, the Government spokesmen have been saying that the Hyde Act does not apply to us and immediately an American spokesman comes out with a statement that it fully applies. If you want, I can read what the Hyde Act says. The Hyde Act does not only impose curbs on our nuclear options and nuclear autonomy but it imposes curbs even on our foreign policy. How our Iran policy should be conducted that also is dictated by the Hyde Act. I am not going into that. The Government’s stand is that Hyde Act does not apply to us. I do not agree with that. If three times discussions in both the Houses of Parliament are any index, the majority of the Members of this House did not agree with the interpretation of the nuclear deal by the Government. There were occasions when almost the entire Opposition walked out in protest. These things have happened.
So, today is not the occasion when we are discussing the Deal itself. In fact, on the very first occasion I said that the Constitution of India does not provide that an international agreement should be approved by Parliament as in many countries this practice is there. Even in America, it has to be passed by the American Congress. Here we do not have such a provision. But after this experience with the nuclear deal, I am of the view -- if the Government agrees – that the Constitution be amended so that in certain cases relating to security and in certain cases relating to the integrity of the country, the Parliament’s approval must be sought before entering into a Deal.
I some time feel worried when some of our neighbours say that Arunachal Pradesh is ours, some of our neighbours say that this part of Kashmir is ours, etc. Who knows one day an international agreement may be signed in which we may be taken for granted just as today for all practical purposes the nuclear deal that is proposed to be signed means that Shrimati Indira Gandhi may have done Pokhran-I and Vajpayeeji may have done Pokhran-II but here after there will be no Pokhran-III and Pokhran-IV… (Interruptions).
Please do not justify what you are doing by saying that Vajpayeeji himself had said that he voluntarily abdicates the right to have another test. Let me point out, we have had Pandit Nehru who was never in favour of making India a nuclear weapon State. We have had Morarji Desai who was never in favour of having India a nuclear weapon State but both of them were never agreeable to sign an NPT which was discriminatory and unequal and only putting curbs on us. Shrimati Indira Gandhi was the first Congress Prime Minister to undertake Pokhran test and successfully that was Pokhran-I in 1974 shortly after America had sent its nuclear fleet to the Bay of Bengal during the Indo-Pak war of 1971. These are the known facts. Therefore, it is that we had objected to it. Therefore, it is that we had reservation about it. Therefore, it is that we have all along maintained that if the people of the country vote NDA again to power, we will renegotiate this Deal.
We have not said that we will scrap it. We said that we will renegotiate this Deal to make it a Treaty between equals so that there are no constraints on our strategic options and no constraint on our strategic autonomy.
Mr. Prime Minister, let me recall that immediately after the Joint Statement with President Bush, two days after that, on the 20th July 2005, you had a Press Conference in Washington and in that a journalist asked you, I have the transcript with me, ‘Mr. Prime Minister, do you see any resistance coming forward from your allies and the Opposition in putting the new Indo-US policy to practice and will you seek a Parliamentary consensus or approval to the new direction you seem to be taking in foreign policy? I would quote what Dr. Manmohan Singh said on the 20th of July in reply to this question, he said:
“Well, the Parliament in our country is sovereign. It goes without saying that we can move forward only on the basis of a broad national consensus.â€
This was the reply given by Dr. Manmohan Singh in Washington… (Interruptions) Is there a broad consensus? The vote tomorrow is no sign of a broad consensus. If the vote is there, the vote is for whether this Government should continue or not. I for one do not mind it at all because I know what is going to happen after two to three months… (Interruptions)
In the other House so many times a demand was made as to why not a sense of the House be taken. This demand was made many times. But the Government refused to do it always saying that an international agreement is not put to Parliament. Parliament cannot force us to do anything in respect of an international agreement. But I am quoting the hon. Prime Minister. The hon. Prime Minister had said it. Having said that I would like to ask him, are you satisfied that there is a consensus in Parliament about this nuclear deal? There is not. At least I do not recall the hon. Prime Minister having convened a single All-Party Meeting on this issue. He had All-Party Meetings on all other issues; only on this issue there was no All-Party Meeting. My own party was of the view that he had given assurances in both the Houses and it should be the function of a Joint Parliamentary Committee to examine whether those particular assurances had been fulfilled while agreeing
to this 123 Agreement. Therefore, a Joint Parliamentary Committee should be formed. The Government refused to do it. The Government did not do it and what it did instead was a UPA-Left Committee was formed and that UPA-Left Coordination Committee had certainly been asking for assurances of these kinds and when those assurances were violated, they withdrew support. We said that if they withdrew support, then this Government will not have a majority because the UPA without the 61 or 62 Members of the Left did not constitute a majority. This Government was formed only when the Left supported it from outside and the moment they withdraw support, this Government has been reduced to a minority and a minority Government has no right to move ahead with any international agreement until it first proves its majority… (Interruptions)
Every spokesman from America while interpreting this particular Act, this particular deal has emphasized that by this deal, the biggest advantage America gets is that India would be a part of the Non-proliferation regime and perhaps Dr. Manmohan Singh has no objection to becoming a part of this Non-proliferation regime. I do not know. But I do know this that what when the Vajpayee Government had its Pokhran II, our severest criticism came in the Rajya Sabha where Dr. Manmohan Singh was the Leader of the Opposition and it came from him. He criticized us.
I have gone through the proceedings of Rajya Sabha of that day and there were sharp exchanges between my old colleague in the Rajya Sabha, late Shri K.R. Malkani and Dr. Manmohan Singh on that issue. Perhaps he feels that it is not in our national interest to have a nuclear weapon state. It may be his opinion.
THE PRIME MINISTER (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): Sir, I think the hon. Leader of Opposition has made the charge again and again that when I spoke on behalf of the Congress Party on 1998 Pokhran test, I was opposed to the test that I was arguing for Non-Proliferation Test. Let any objective minded person read that speech and if he can substantiate what Mr. Advani is saying, I leave it to the good sense of the House.
I will ask some of my colleagues to refer to that.
But the Prime Minister has denied it.
I have already given the gist of it. I have not only given the gist but I have also mentioned that there were sharp exchanges between my colleague, late Shri K.R. Malkani and him.
DR. MANMOHAN SINGH: The sharp exchange was whether we should worry about the sanctions or not. I said that we are all opposed to sanctions and we must prepare our country to face the challenge of sanction.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI (GANDHINAGAR): And we did share it so far as the
Yes, there is no difference on it.
These days, this Government’s performance on the aam aadmi’s front, like kimtei (price rise), bijli, sadak and paani has been so dismal. They thought that in the name of nuclear deal they would be able to tell the people that if only the deal was done, they would have power and electricity in every household. Because of this opposition to the deal, they would be denied light and there would be darkness all around. I have seen statements made that once the deal is destroyed, darkness will descend on India. Please do not make any statement of that kind. You just give us the figures like if at all this deal goes through, when we will get nuclear power, how many years hereafter we will get it, at what price and how much power, etc.
Is it not true that today only 3 per cent nuclear energy is provided and even after this deal is done, executed and implemented, the total amount of nuclear energy available to India would be just 6 per cent and the remaining 94 per cent has to come from other sources? So, let us not try to delude the Indian people by saying that we are trying to give energy security to the country by this deal. So, if to some extent, our national security is somewhat contained in so far as nuclear blasts are concerned, it should be accepted. We do not agree with this. We think that this is trying to deceive the people. Please do not do it. Even otherwise, on the power front, the performance of this Government has been very dismal. If I were to go into statistics, the Common Minimum Programme which the Left Parties have to take note of, says that they will provide electricity for all within five years. Four years and two months are completed. “All†means
there are six lakh villages in the country out of which 2,30,000 are unelectrified villages and so far as households are concerned, there are 7.8 crore unelectrified households.
We had promised to give all of them electricity in five years. The performance is known. It is very dismal and very poor. On the sadak front, on the pani front and on all fronts, the performance is very poor. If anyone asks me what is the biggest achievement of the NDA regime, in fact, I would say that it was sadak. The highways, the gram sadak yojana and the Golden Quadrilateral were the most significant achievements of our Government. It is because of those highways, that our Khanduri ji acquired a reputation which has benefited him all his life. On the fronts of bijli, sadak and pani, the performance of this Government is miserable. Do not try to cover it up by saying that nuclear deal will give electricity to every household. This Government is not able to fix the problems of the common man. … (Interruptions)
Only a few months back, while presenting his Budget, the hon. Finance Minister came forth with a proposal to alleviate the misery of the farmers. The schemes of loan waiver and loan relief were announced. No provision was made in the Budget itself, but loan waiver and loan relief schemes were announced. Those farmers who have taken loans from the banks were sought to be given relief. I have had occasions to visit many places, address many farmers’ rallies, meet farmers. Only some time back I had been to a massive rally near Bandra, near Vidharba, that is Sakoli. I can say that they were so dissatisfied and so unhappy that suicides are still going on because the beneficiaries are only those who have taken loans from the banks. A very large number of farmers, particularly those who indulge in suicides, are non-beneficiaries. So, it would be appropriate if on this occasion the people are told, the House is told, the country is told as to what help
has been extended as a result of the massive announcement which gave a sense of euphoria in the ruling party that a lot has been done.
These days there is a lot of talk about increased GDP growth. It is a matter of fact that our senior economist has said that today there are so many billionaires in the country. Twenty billionaires earn in a year as much as three crore poor people. I would suggest positively that let GDP have a different interpretation now. Let “G†stand not so much for growth, but for “Good Governanceâ€; let “D†stand for “Development for Allâ€; let “P†stand for “Protection of All Citizensâ€, that is security for all citizens.
I would like to refer to another point before I conclude. That is a point on which we are always made a target of attack. India’s freedom in 1947 was accompanied by partition. Partition on the basis of which area of the country had a Hindu majority and which area had non-Hindu majority, that is Muslim majority. Pakistan was carved out and it became an Islamic State. India became independent in 1947.
But if in 1950, it adopted a Constitution, it did not accept theocracy.
Theocracy is alien to Indian culture and tradition. Therefore, India became a secular State. But does `secularism’ mean that you must have a kind of an allergy always to Hindus? … (Interruptions)
I am not able to understand why in the last four years, this Government has been indifferent and has been negligent of the continuous terrorists’ attacks that have been made in the country. In this Government, in the past four years, we have seen a long and bloody trail of terrorist acts. …
There were serial blasts in Mumbai, in Malegaon, in Hyderabad, and in Jaipur and then there were terrorist attacks in Ayodhya, Varanasi, Jammu and Bangalore. There was a terrorist attack on the Samjouta Express. …
I would like the hon. Prime Minister or the Minister of Home Affairs to tell us as to what has been the progress of investigation in all these cases. Has anyone been brought to book, has anyone been put up for trial and has anyone been convicted? To the best of my information, the performance is so dismal on this front. … (Interruptions) I see no other reason, excepting a consideration of vote banks. This is wrong and it is unfair to the Muslim community. Terrorism has no religion and terrorists do not belong to any religious community. Therefore, action against the terrorist will not annoy any community. It will not. But you are always concerned and on the basis of which, you keep on dragging a case like that of Afzal. It is not understandable. The Supreme Court, the High Court and every Court say that the person who masterminded the attack on the Indian Parliament must be sentenced to death and yet the Government continues to drag on the
matter by taking no decision. These are issues which are not evidences of genuine secularism.
Similarly, what has happened in the case of Amarnath Yatra and Amarnath Shrine Board and what has happened in the case of Sethu Samudram? These are issues on which I demand that the land taken for the Amarnath pilgrims should be handed back to the Shrine Board and the function of arranging the yatra also should be handed back to the Shrine Board and not by the Government.
Many of you know that in the earlier regime when Shri Jagmohan was the Governor there - it was not our Government but Shri Jagmohan was the Governor there – he made arrangements for Vaishno Devi in a manner and set up the Shrine in a manner as to make every pilgrim to Vaishno Devi come back from there safe. Why can we not have a similar arrangement at every pilgrim place? When the Government of the State – it was the PDP Minister who gave that order – and when he decided to set up a similar Shrine in Amarnath and provide land for temporary use of the pilgrims, there was a hue and cry of a nature behind it that I have no doubt that the ISI might be there. I do not know. The allegations were that it was the ISI which did it. But the situation was such that the Congress-PDP Government succumbed to it.… (Interruptions)
Let us not imperil internal security. Let us not imperil the national security for vote bank consideration.… (Interruptions)
Now I come to Sethusamudram Project. The Sethusamudram is a case when the biggest shock came. So many, hundreds of thousands of organizations in the country demanded that Sethusamudram bridge should not be broken and it should be preserved.… (Interruptions)
Sir, the country was really shocked in connection with the Sethusamudram case when the Government had filed an affidavit before the Supreme Court saying that it was doubtful whether there was any such historical entity like Ram or there was any other character of the Ramayana.…
No. It is not sub judice. There was a countrywide protest as a result of which the Government was forced to withdraw that affidavit.… (Interruptions) I am happy that they withdrew it.… (Interruptions)
Sir, since I have mentioned Amarnath, I would like to emphasise that there are so many States in the country where there are pilgrim places for various religions. Ours is a multi-religious country. We have Rajasthan where so many people come from all over the world for Ajmer Darga Sharif and I recall that when once late Shrimati Benazir Bhutto wanted to visit Ajmer, she phoned me and said: ‘I want to go to Ajmer Darga Sharif and so could you kindly tell Shrimati Vasundara Raje, your Chief Minister there, to arrange for my visit’, I did it. So, I would think that all these places are pilgrim places for different religions. But what has happened at Amarnath is shocking. …
Sir, I will only make one last point. After all, the inquest of this Government will not be complete unless I refer to the fact as to how systematically various democratic institutions of governance are being misused for questionable politics and this has been happening all along. Even cases of corruption have been managed in such a way by the CBI that Mr. Ottavio Quottorochi escaped from the country and he was allowed to take away Rs. 20 crore from a foreign bank.
I recall that in 1999 there was as little a difference between the two contesting parties when Vajpayeeji was forced to seek a Vote of Confidence as Dr. Manmohan Singh is forced today and we knew that the result will be very narrow and yet I do not recall even an allegation being made against the NDA Government that you have done this or done that or you have misused the office. There was nothing of that kind, but see the kind of reports that have appeared in the past fortnight as to what has been happening. In fact, I saw a cartoon in The Hindu saying that nuclear power seems to be having the need of horse power meaning horse trading is going on.
Sir, the CBI has been misused. I would say that it is not merely the Aam admi who has been oppressed under price rise, but also the farmers who have been forced by the situation to commit suicide again and again. In fact, I would like someone from the Government to tell us as to what are the steps that have been taken in respect of agriculture, in respect of irrigation in the last four years and what has been done in the interests of farmers in the country.
It is not merely this Government or that Government, it is not merely one Party or another which has got a bad name by the happenings of the past fortnight. Indian democracy has become saline and therefore, if you take into account the performance of the four years of this Government as well as the happenings of the last fortnight to convert this minority Government into a majority Government, it will not succeed perhaps even then. But these things should be borne in mind when we cast our vote tomorrow evening and exercise our vote. All this is being done only to live 100 days more.
What would happen if the Government, after the withdrawal of support by the Left on the basis of which their Government was going on, said, all right, we go to the people and we will decide. They could have done it. But instead they forced this kind of trial of strength. Let all these factors be taken into account, misuse of Government institutions to convert this minority into a majority and four years of misrule by this Government. All these factors if you keep in mind, I am sure…
I am concluding because I know that irrespective of what happens today or tomorrow, we have to go to the people and the people’s verdict will be very clear.
(ends)
SHRI L.K. ADVANI (GANDHINAGAR):
Hon. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the Motion just now moved by the Prime Minister. Obviously, even though he said that this would be an opportunity for the House to consider the totality of this Government’s performance during the last four years, not merely on the issue on the basis of which this Government has been reduced to a minority, but the totality of the performance of this Government would be debated today and tomorrow.
I remember all earlier cases where a Confidence Motion has been moved and almost invariably the Prime Minister initiated the debate by giving a resume of the performance. The Prime Minister certainly is free to choose to reply to the debate, and in the beginning make brief observations as he has made.
Let me, at the out set, say that the focus, first of all, in the House should be why this debate has become necessary. Normally, the issue of the nuclear deal was going on for two years. It was last August, in 2007, that for the first time I got an impression that the Government had now made up its mind to part company with the Left, when a Correspondent of a Kolkata daily was asked to publish prominently on the front-page that so far as the US-India Nuclear Deal is concerned, the Government has taken a decision which is non-negotiable and if the Left does not approve of it, they are free to do what they want. At that point itself, I felt that what has happened all of a sudden. But that stage continued from August last till today as a result of which I had often to say that to me it appears that the Government is paralyzed; there is nothing else excepting the deal that is being talked of.
When the Prime Minister just now said that this was a time when we should have addressed problems of inflation, prices, which are affecting the common man instead of having this, I feel surprised that it is for nearly one year that this controversy over the nuclear deal has been going on between the Government and the Left. Frankly, let me, at the outset, say that I do not agree with the Left, on many matters we differ very widely, but on this particular matter, I would say that if the Government has become destabilized today and this kind of Confidence Vote had to be sought from the Parliament exactly, as he said, four years and two months later after it took charge – it was on the 22nd of May, 2004 that this Government was sworn-in – it faces today the likelihood of being voted out. … (Interruptions)
I have said, “Likelihood of being voted outâ€, and no one can take objection to that. After all, there are people who are making assertions that this is going to happen; so many votes are going to be cast this way or that way. I have not said that. The possibility and the likelihood of being voted out cannot be denied by anyone.
It is like saying, as I have said again and again, that the UPA Government today is like a patient in the ICU room. If anyone talks about that patient, the first question naturally asked is, “Is he going to survive or not?â€
Sir, therefore, I start with saying that this situation has not been brought about by the Opposition; not by the NDA; not even by the Leftists with whom I disagree otherwise. Today, this particular Confidence Motion is being debated just a few months before the General Elections are due where the people will get an opportunity of deciding whether this Government should continue or not, even if it survives tomorrow. …
The reason is that situation has been invited for itself by the Government itself. Mr. Prime Minister, I am sorry to say, by you personally. When you started that particular The Telegraph interview last year, you started it. After having started it, why say that only because of this particular distraction – I saw a statement of yours which called this a ‘particular distraction’ – you are not able to deal with prices, you are not able to deal with the issues of the common man? Please do not say that.
We have not destabilized the Government. Even the Communists had been prolonging the whole matter trying to find a way out. You invented the device of a Joint UPA-Left Committee and you had your senior-most Minister Pranab Mukherjee preside over it. That senior-most Minister assured that Committee that you will go to the IAEA with our safeguards only after you had taken their consent. Today we are told that you had said that you would go there and you would go to the NSG, and then come back to them. I do not know! They will be able to say that. I have seen so many statements categorically assuring them as well as the country that we must not go there until this has happened. So much so that even in respect of this Confidence Motion Shri Pranab Mukherjee himself publicly said that before taking a vote of confidence from the House, the Government would not go to the IAEA, and that he was saying that after having spoken to the Prime Minister on phone. This
is what he said. And suddenly we found that the draft had been sent there.
When this Committee and the Leftists asked him to let them see the draft, he said, “It is classified. You cannot see itâ€. The members of the IAEA from the other countries of the world can see it but not the Indian Parliament! Therefore, someone asked, “Who has classified it? Is it the Government of India? Is it the IAEA? Is it Washington? Who has classified it? We want to know?†All these questions had been there.
Therefore, I am saying, please don’t blame anyone else for having had this kind of Session. At least in my memory, there has never been a Session like this before. It is the first time in the history of the Indian Parliament a Special Session of two days just to discuss whether this minority Government should be allowed to continue or not. Therefore, don’t blame anyone else. If anyone is to be blamed, it is your Government. In a way, you personally, and of course, the Congress Party President, without her approval, you would not be able to take a single step.
Of course, we, in the Opposition. would like to defeat the Government on the floor of the House. But I draw distinction between defeating and destabilizing. It is not in our nature to destabilize an elected Government. It is not in our nature, you may do it; you have done it with Chandra Shekhar; you have done it with Deve Gowda; you have done it with I.K. Gujral; and you have done it with Vajpayee in 1999 when we were defeated just by one vote, and that too a vote of a person who had ceased to be an MP, and became a Chief Minister in another State. Therefore, I am drawing a distinction between defeating a Government and destabilizing the Government.
Sir, I can claim to have seen all the Prime Ministers since Independence; almost all the Governments since 1947 or rather since 1950, after the enactment of the Indian Constitution - first as a journalist from the Press Gallery, and later, as a political activist and since nearly four decades as a Member of Parliament. I can say that I have seen short-lived Governments; I have seen instable Governments; but I have never seen a Government so paralyzed for such a long time.
There is nothing else except the Deal; there is nothing else except the continuous meetings between the Left and the Government; and making everyone think – will it survive or will it not survive. Nowadays it is said that the nuclear deal is in the best interest of the nation and they have been making an appeal again and again to me and my Party saying that we talk about the national interest and so, why we are not supporting the Deal. My answer is that if the Government really thought that this was very important, then why is it that their Common Minimum Programme did not even mention it and why is it that even the manifesto of the Congress Party did not even mention it? What has happened? Has it become suddenly very important?
Mr. Prime Minister, sometimes, I feel that the Deal is not a deal between two sovereign countries; it seems to me to be a kind of an agreement between two individuals and if one of the individuals happens to be the Prime Minister of our country, he thinks that nothing else is more important than to fulfil this agreement. Frankly, Mr. Prime Minister, it does not give me happiness to find that a Deal is being gone into in a way which makes India a junior partner in the agreement.
I do not want the world to be a unipolar world as it has become now. No. It must be a multipolar world and in that multipolar world, I want to see India as the principal pole; and in order to be a principal pole, you cannot agree that these countries are nuclear weapon States whereas India is permanently a non-nuclear weapon State; and this is in the agreement. This is not only in the agreement, but also even in the proposed draft sent to the IAEA; it is on the basis of a chapter which relates to the non-nuclear weapon States.
My colleague in the other House, Shri Arun Shourie has made an elaborate and a very detailed study of it and he has written so much about it; I do not want to go into it because I feel that today’s issue is not the nuclear Deal so much as why this Government had been reduced to a minority and whether the manner in which it is trying to become a majority today by accumulating votes is really right – and on that basis the House should decide on the motion that has been moved by the Prime Minister – or not.
My complaint is that the UPA Government, the present Prime Minister and the Congress chief do not believe in the so-called coalition dharma. Shri Vajpayee was the head of the NDA. I do not know how many of you know that in this country, among the political parties, perhaps the BJP, the earlier Jan Sangh, has been the only one which consistently, since the 1960s, after China became a nuclear power and had its first blast at Lop Nur, has been saying that we should decide on India also becoming a nuclear weapon State; this is since 1964.
So, when in 1998 we formed the NDA, most of our colleagues and most of our partners in the NDA were not of the same view. None of them had this particular item in their manifesto. But we discussed it with them. They said that they did not agree with some of our other points in the manifesto of BJP, but so far as making India a nuclear weapon State is concerned, they agreed with it. Therefore, they had no objection in including it in the Common Minimum Programme which we described as the National Agenda for Governance.. Only after they agreed, we went ahead with it. This is what I would describe as ‘following the coalition dharma’.
Having done it, Shri Vajpayee who was sworn in on the 19th March 1998, did not take even two months to complete the task that he had undertaken; and on the 11th May, we had the Pokhran II.
These are all facts which are necessary to understand. My stress is that if the coalition dharma had been followed this Motion would not have been necessary. They could have continued in a state of paralysis right up to the elections. What was the difficulty!
Sir, they have their own problems. They are not very eager to face elections. At the same time they did not destabilize you. They were willing to allow you to continue but you invited it for yourself and having invited it, please do not call it a distraction. It is a part of the Constitutional Parliamentary system. Every Government must be in a position to prove its majority in the Lok Sabha. It is certainly an irony that for the first time the Prime Minister himself would not be able to vote for his own Motion.
THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE): Did Shri I.K. Gujral vote for the Confidence Motion? Did Shri Devegowda vote for the Confidence Motion?
I am not talking about Shri Gujral or Shri Devegowda.… (Interruptions)
Mr. Prime Minister, you should not have gone to the IAEA stealthily in this manner. It is said that it is on auto-pilot. Formally from the Government side, it is planted in a newspaper that whether they sink or survive the Deal is done. This is the news item published in a newspaper. I do not know. I would expect on this occasion the Government to enlighten us whether this is true that now the Parliament has become irrelevant; whether the Indian Parliament gives a Vote of Confidence to the Government or not.… (Interruptions) We are discussing it but even before the discussion began a news item appeared in a newspaper. Should I quote it exactly? I think everybody knows it. Authoritative sources from the Government told The Telegraph – once again The Telegraph was chosen – that sink or survive, the Deal is done. It was told that whether this Government wins the Confidence Vote or not, the Deal is done. It will go on auto-pilot. My own
feeling is it is not true. My own feeling is that the Government of America, the Congress of America particularly, will not disregard the fact whether the UPA Government, which is a party to this Deal, is in Office, commands the confidence of the Parliament or not. It would be important to America which is also a democracy.
Let me at this point say that we are not against nuclear energy. Very often it is being projected that if we are against the Nuclear Deal it means that we are against the nuclear energy. No, we are not. We are not against our very close relationship with America. I may differ from the Communists on this issue. We have no objection to having strategic relationship with America, Russia or Japan. These are issues on which I would think that a country like India, which is the largest democracy in the world, should have a very close relationship with the strongest democracy of the world, that is America. So far as BJP and NDA are concerned, we are not at all opposed to having a relationship with America. But irrespective of how strong or how powerful the other country is, we would never like India to become party to an Agreement which is unequal.
My charge is that this particular Deal makes us subservient partner in the Deal. Very often, the Government spokesmen have been saying that the Hyde Act does not apply to us and immediately an American spokesman comes out with a statement that it fully applies. If you want, I can read what the Hyde Act says. The Hyde Act does not only impose curbs on our nuclear options and nuclear autonomy but it imposes curbs even on our foreign policy. How our Iran policy should be conducted that also is dictated by the Hyde Act. I am not going into that. The Government’s stand is that Hyde Act does not apply to us. I do not agree with that. If three times discussions in both the Houses of Parliament are any index, the majority of the Members of this House did not agree with the interpretation of the nuclear deal by the Government. There were occasions when almost the entire Opposition walked out in protest. These things have happened.
So, today is not the occasion when we are discussing the Deal itself. In fact, on the very first occasion I said that the Constitution of India does not provide that an international agreement should be approved by Parliament as in many countries this practice is there. Even in America, it has to be passed by the American Congress. Here we do not have such a provision. But after this experience with the nuclear deal, I am of the view -- if the Government agrees – that the Constitution be amended so that in certain cases relating to security and in certain cases relating to the integrity of the country, the Parliament’s approval must be sought before entering into a Deal.
I some time feel worried when some of our neighbours say that Arunachal Pradesh is ours, some of our neighbours say that this part of Kashmir is ours, etc. Who knows one day an international agreement may be signed in which we may be taken for granted just as today for all practical purposes the nuclear deal that is proposed to be signed means that Shrimati Indira Gandhi may have done Pokhran-I and Vajpayeeji may have done Pokhran-II but here after there will be no Pokhran-III and Pokhran-IV… (Interruptions).
Please do not justify what you are doing by saying that Vajpayeeji himself had said that he voluntarily abdicates the right to have another test. Let me point out, we have had Pandit Nehru who was never in favour of making India a nuclear weapon State. We have had Morarji Desai who was never in favour of having India a nuclear weapon State but both of them were never agreeable to sign an NPT which was discriminatory and unequal and only putting curbs on us. Shrimati Indira Gandhi was the first Congress Prime Minister to undertake Pokhran test and successfully that was Pokhran-I in 1974 shortly after America had sent its nuclear fleet to the Bay of Bengal during the Indo-Pak war of 1971. These are the known facts. Therefore, it is that we had objected to it. Therefore, it is that we had reservation about it. Therefore, it is that we have all along maintained that if the people of the country vote NDA again to power, we will renegotiate this Deal.
We have not said that we will scrap it. We said that we will renegotiate this Deal to make it a Treaty between equals so that there are no constraints on our strategic options and no constraint on our strategic autonomy.
Mr. Prime Minister, let me recall that immediately after the Joint Statement with President Bush, two days after that, on the 20th July 2005, you had a Press Conference in Washington and in that a journalist asked you, I have the transcript with me, ‘Mr. Prime Minister, do you see any resistance coming forward from your allies and the Opposition in putting the new Indo-US policy to practice and will you seek a Parliamentary consensus or approval to the new direction you seem to be taking in foreign policy? I would quote what Dr. Manmohan Singh said on the 20th of July in reply to this question, he said:
“Well, the Parliament in our country is sovereign. It goes without saying that we can move forward only on the basis of a broad national consensus.â€
This was the reply given by Dr. Manmohan Singh in Washington… (Interruptions) Is there a broad consensus? The vote tomorrow is no sign of a broad consensus. If the vote is there, the vote is for whether this Government should continue or not. I for one do not mind it at all because I know what is going to happen after two to three months… (Interruptions)
In the other House so many times a demand was made as to why not a sense of the House be taken. This demand was made many times. But the Government refused to do it always saying that an international agreement is not put to Parliament. Parliament cannot force us to do anything in respect of an international agreement. But I am quoting the hon. Prime Minister. The hon. Prime Minister had said it. Having said that I would like to ask him, are you satisfied that there is a consensus in Parliament about this nuclear deal? There is not. At least I do not recall the hon. Prime Minister having convened a single All-Party Meeting on this issue. He had All-Party Meetings on all other issues; only on this issue there was no All-Party Meeting. My own party was of the view that he had given assurances in both the Houses and it should be the function of a Joint Parliamentary Committee to examine whether those particular assurances had been fulfilled while agreeing
to this 123 Agreement. Therefore, a Joint Parliamentary Committee should be formed. The Government refused to do it. The Government did not do it and what it did instead was a UPA-Left Committee was formed and that UPA-Left Coordination Committee had certainly been asking for assurances of these kinds and when those assurances were violated, they withdrew support. We said that if they withdrew support, then this Government will not have a majority because the UPA without the 61 or 62 Members of the Left did not constitute a majority. This Government was formed only when the Left supported it from outside and the moment they withdraw support, this Government has been reduced to a minority and a minority Government has no right to move ahead with any international agreement until it first proves its majority… (Interruptions)
Every spokesman from America while interpreting this particular Act, this particular deal has emphasized that by this deal, the biggest advantage America gets is that India would be a part of the Non-proliferation regime and perhaps Dr. Manmohan Singh has no objection to becoming a part of this Non-proliferation regime. I do not know. But I do know this that what when the Vajpayee Government had its Pokhran II, our severest criticism came in the Rajya Sabha where Dr. Manmohan Singh was the Leader of the Opposition and it came from him. He criticized us.
I have gone through the proceedings of Rajya Sabha of that day and there were sharp exchanges between my old colleague in the Rajya Sabha, late Shri K.R. Malkani and Dr. Manmohan Singh on that issue. Perhaps he feels that it is not in our national interest to have a nuclear weapon state. It may be his opinion.
THE PRIME MINISTER (DR. MANMOHAN SINGH): Sir, I think the hon. Leader of Opposition has made the charge again and again that when I spoke on behalf of the Congress Party on 1998 Pokhran test, I was opposed to the test that I was arguing for Non-Proliferation Test. Let any objective minded person read that speech and if he can substantiate what Mr. Advani is saying, I leave it to the good sense of the House.
I will ask some of my colleagues to refer to that.
But the Prime Minister has denied it.
I have already given the gist of it. I have not only given the gist but I have also mentioned that there were sharp exchanges between my colleague, late Shri K.R. Malkani and him.
DR. MANMOHAN SINGH: The sharp exchange was whether we should worry about the sanctions or not. I said that we are all opposed to sanctions and we must prepare our country to face the challenge of sanction.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI (GANDHINAGAR): And we did share it so far as the
Yes, there is no difference on it.
These days, this Government’s performance on the aam aadmi’s front, like kimtei (price rise), bijli, sadak and paani has been so dismal. They thought that in the name of nuclear deal they would be able to tell the people that if only the deal was done, they would have power and electricity in every household. Because of this opposition to the deal, they would be denied light and there would be darkness all around. I have seen statements made that once the deal is destroyed, darkness will descend on India. Please do not make any statement of that kind. You just give us the figures like if at all this deal goes through, when we will get nuclear power, how many years hereafter we will get it, at what price and how much power, etc.
Is it not true that today only 3 per cent nuclear energy is provided and even after this deal is done, executed and implemented, the total amount of nuclear energy available to India would be just 6 per cent and the remaining 94 per cent has to come from other sources? So, let us not try to delude the Indian people by saying that we are trying to give energy security to the country by this deal. So, if to some extent, our national security is somewhat contained in so far as nuclear blasts are concerned, it should be accepted. We do not agree with this. We think that this is trying to deceive the people. Please do not do it. Even otherwise, on the power front, the performance of this Government has been very dismal. If I were to go into statistics, the Common Minimum Programme which the Left Parties have to take note of, says that they will provide electricity for all within five years. Four years and two months are completed. “All†means
there are six lakh villages in the country out of which 2,30,000 are unelectrified villages and so far as households are concerned, there are 7.8 crore unelectrified households.
We had promised to give all of them electricity in five years. The performance is known. It is very dismal and very poor. On the sadak front, on the pani front and on all fronts, the performance is very poor. If anyone asks me what is the biggest achievement of the NDA regime, in fact, I would say that it was sadak. The highways, the gram sadak yojana and the Golden Quadrilateral were the most significant achievements of our Government. It is because of those highways, that our Khanduri ji acquired a reputation which has benefited him all his life. On the fronts of bijli, sadak and pani, the performance of this Government is miserable. Do not try to cover it up by saying that nuclear deal will give electricity to every household. This Government is not able to fix the problems of the common man. … (Interruptions)
Only a few months back, while presenting his Budget, the hon. Finance Minister came forth with a proposal to alleviate the misery of the farmers. The schemes of loan waiver and loan relief were announced. No provision was made in the Budget itself, but loan waiver and loan relief schemes were announced. Those farmers who have taken loans from the banks were sought to be given relief. I have had occasions to visit many places, address many farmers’ rallies, meet farmers. Only some time back I had been to a massive rally near Bandra, near Vidharba, that is Sakoli. I can say that they were so dissatisfied and so unhappy that suicides are still going on because the beneficiaries are only those who have taken loans from the banks. A very large number of farmers, particularly those who indulge in suicides, are non-beneficiaries. So, it would be appropriate if on this occasion the people are told, the House is told, the country is told as to what help
has been extended as a result of the massive announcement which gave a sense of euphoria in the ruling party that a lot has been done.
These days there is a lot of talk about increased GDP growth. It is a matter of fact that our senior economist has said that today there are so many billionaires in the country. Twenty billionaires earn in a year as much as three crore poor people. I would suggest positively that let GDP have a different interpretation now. Let “G†stand not so much for growth, but for “Good Governanceâ€; let “D†stand for “Development for Allâ€; let “P†stand for “Protection of All Citizensâ€, that is security for all citizens.
I would like to refer to another point before I conclude. That is a point on which we are always made a target of attack. India’s freedom in 1947 was accompanied by partition. Partition on the basis of which area of the country had a Hindu majority and which area had non-Hindu majority, that is Muslim majority. Pakistan was carved out and it became an Islamic State. India became independent in 1947.
But if in 1950, it adopted a Constitution, it did not accept theocracy.
Theocracy is alien to Indian culture and tradition. Therefore, India became a secular State. But does `secularism’ mean that you must have a kind of an allergy always to Hindus? … (Interruptions)
I am not able to understand why in the last four years, this Government has been indifferent and has been negligent of the continuous terrorists’ attacks that have been made in the country. In this Government, in the past four years, we have seen a long and bloody trail of terrorist acts. …
There were serial blasts in Mumbai, in Malegaon, in Hyderabad, and in Jaipur and then there were terrorist attacks in Ayodhya, Varanasi, Jammu and Bangalore. There was a terrorist attack on the Samjouta Express. …
I would like the hon. Prime Minister or the Minister of Home Affairs to tell us as to what has been the progress of investigation in all these cases. Has anyone been brought to book, has anyone been put up for trial and has anyone been convicted? To the best of my information, the performance is so dismal on this front. … (Interruptions) I see no other reason, excepting a consideration of vote banks. This is wrong and it is unfair to the Muslim community. Terrorism has no religion and terrorists do not belong to any religious community. Therefore, action against the terrorist will not annoy any community. It will not. But you are always concerned and on the basis of which, you keep on dragging a case like that of Afzal. It is not understandable. The Supreme Court, the High Court and every Court say that the person who masterminded the attack on the Indian Parliament must be sentenced to death and yet the Government continues to drag on the
matter by taking no decision. These are issues which are not evidences of genuine secularism.
Similarly, what has happened in the case of Amarnath Yatra and Amarnath Shrine Board and what has happened in the case of Sethu Samudram? These are issues on which I demand that the land taken for the Amarnath pilgrims should be handed back to the Shrine Board and the function of arranging the yatra also should be handed back to the Shrine Board and not by the Government.
Many of you know that in the earlier regime when Shri Jagmohan was the Governor there - it was not our Government but Shri Jagmohan was the Governor there – he made arrangements for Vaishno Devi in a manner and set up the Shrine in a manner as to make every pilgrim to Vaishno Devi come back from there safe. Why can we not have a similar arrangement at every pilgrim place? When the Government of the State – it was the PDP Minister who gave that order – and when he decided to set up a similar Shrine in Amarnath and provide land for temporary use of the pilgrims, there was a hue and cry of a nature behind it that I have no doubt that the ISI might be there. I do not know. The allegations were that it was the ISI which did it. But the situation was such that the Congress-PDP Government succumbed to it.… (Interruptions)
Let us not imperil internal security. Let us not imperil the national security for vote bank consideration.… (Interruptions)
Now I come to Sethusamudram Project. The Sethusamudram is a case when the biggest shock came. So many, hundreds of thousands of organizations in the country demanded that Sethusamudram bridge should not be broken and it should be preserved.… (Interruptions)
Sir, the country was really shocked in connection with the Sethusamudram case when the Government had filed an affidavit before the Supreme Court saying that it was doubtful whether there was any such historical entity like Ram or there was any other character of the Ramayana.…
No. It is not sub judice. There was a countrywide protest as a result of which the Government was forced to withdraw that affidavit.… (Interruptions) I am happy that they withdrew it.… (Interruptions)
Sir, since I have mentioned Amarnath, I would like to emphasise that there are so many States in the country where there are pilgrim places for various religions. Ours is a multi-religious country. We have Rajasthan where so many people come from all over the world for Ajmer Darga Sharif and I recall that when once late Shrimati Benazir Bhutto wanted to visit Ajmer, she phoned me and said: ‘I want to go to Ajmer Darga Sharif and so could you kindly tell Shrimati Vasundara Raje, your Chief Minister there, to arrange for my visit’, I did it. So, I would think that all these places are pilgrim places for different religions. But what has happened at Amarnath is shocking. …
Sir, I will only make one last point. After all, the inquest of this Government will not be complete unless I refer to the fact as to how systematically various democratic institutions of governance are being misused for questionable politics and this has been happening all along. Even cases of corruption have been managed in such a way by the CBI that Mr. Ottavio Quottorochi escaped from the country and he was allowed to take away Rs. 20 crore from a foreign bank.
I recall that in 1999 there was as little a difference between the two contesting parties when Vajpayeeji was forced to seek a Vote of Confidence as Dr. Manmohan Singh is forced today and we knew that the result will be very narrow and yet I do not recall even an allegation being made against the NDA Government that you have done this or done that or you have misused the office. There was nothing of that kind, but see the kind of reports that have appeared in the past fortnight as to what has been happening. In fact, I saw a cartoon in The Hindu saying that nuclear power seems to be having the need of horse power meaning horse trading is going on.
Sir, the CBI has been misused. I would say that it is not merely the Aam admi who has been oppressed under price rise, but also the farmers who have been forced by the situation to commit suicide again and again. In fact, I would like someone from the Government to tell us as to what are the steps that have been taken in respect of agriculture, in respect of irrigation in the last four years and what has been done in the interests of farmers in the country.
It is not merely this Government or that Government, it is not merely one Party or another which has got a bad name by the happenings of the past fortnight. Indian democracy has become saline and therefore, if you take into account the performance of the four years of this Government as well as the happenings of the last fortnight to convert this minority Government into a majority Government, it will not succeed perhaps even then. But these things should be borne in mind when we cast our vote tomorrow evening and exercise our vote. All this is being done only to live 100 days more.
What would happen if the Government, after the withdrawal of support by the Left on the basis of which their Government was going on, said, all right, we go to the people and we will decide. They could have done it. But instead they forced this kind of trial of strength. Let all these factors be taken into account, misuse of Government institutions to convert this minority into a majority and four years of misrule by this Government. All these factors if you keep in mind, I am sure…
I am concluding because I know that irrespective of what happens today or tomorrow, we have to go to the people and the people’s verdict will be very clear.
(ends)
Iran had US Assisted 23,000 MWe Nuclear Program
Iran had US Assisted 23,000 MWe Nuclear Program
This is story of how Iran the most powerful nation in middle-east with US assistance planned 23,000 MWe nuclear power development program with due compliance.
Iran was getting reactors, uranium, enrichment & fuel processing technology.
Politics destroyed Iran. Its economy lags behind nations in the region just ahead of Iraq hovering at $4500 level – a tenth of Kuwait or Dubai.
Three decades later L.K. Advani & Prakash Karat failed to repeat Khomeini act.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
The TNRC was equipped with a U.S.-supplied, 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor, which became operational in 1967 and was fueled by highly enriched uranium. Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1968 and ratified it in 1970. With the establishment of Iran's atomic agency and the NPT in place, the Shah approved plans to construct, with U.S. help, up to 23 nuclear power stations by the year 2000.
In March 1974, the Shah envisioned a time when the world's oil supply would run out, and declared, "Petroleum is a noble material, much too valuable to burn... We envision producing, as soon as possible, 23 000 megawatts of electricity using nuclear plants." Bushehr would be the first plant, and would supply energy to the inland city of Shiraz. In 1975, the Bonn firm Kraftwerk Union AG, a joint venture of Siemens AG and AEG Telefunken, signed a contract worth $4 to $6 billion to build the pressurized water reactor nuclear power plant. Construction of the two 1,196 MWe nuclear generating units was subcontracted to ThyssenKrupp, and was to have been completed in 1981.
"President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'." At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense. The Ford strategy paper said the "introduction of nuclear power will both provide for the growing needs of Iran's economy and free remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran
The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program. The support, encouragement and participation of the United States and Western European governments in Iran's nuclear program continued until the 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled the Shah of Iran.
After the Iranian Revolution in 1979, the Iranian government temporarily disbanded elements of the program, and then revived it with less Western assistance than during the pre-revolution era. Iran's nuclear program has included several research sites, a uranium mine, a nuclear reactor, and uranium processing facilities that include a uranium enrichment plant.
Iran's first nuclear power plant, Bushehr I, is expected to be operational in March 2008 and delivering its maximum capacity to the nation's power grid by March 2009. There are no current plans to complete the Bushehr II reactor, although the construction of 19 nuclear power plants is envisaged. Iran has announced that it is working on a new 360 MWe nuclear power plant to be located in Darkhoyen. Iran has also indicated it that it will seek more medium-sized nuclear power plants and uranium mines for the future.
This is story of how Iran the most powerful nation in middle-east with US assistance planned 23,000 MWe nuclear power development program with due compliance.
Iran was getting reactors, uranium, enrichment & fuel processing technology.
Politics destroyed Iran. Its economy lags behind nations in the region just ahead of Iraq hovering at $4500 level – a tenth of Kuwait or Dubai.
Three decades later L.K. Advani & Prakash Karat failed to repeat Khomeini act.
Ravinder Singh
July27, 2008
The TNRC was equipped with a U.S.-supplied, 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor, which became operational in 1967 and was fueled by highly enriched uranium. Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1968 and ratified it in 1970. With the establishment of Iran's atomic agency and the NPT in place, the Shah approved plans to construct, with U.S. help, up to 23 nuclear power stations by the year 2000.
In March 1974, the Shah envisioned a time when the world's oil supply would run out, and declared, "Petroleum is a noble material, much too valuable to burn... We envision producing, as soon as possible, 23 000 megawatts of electricity using nuclear plants." Bushehr would be the first plant, and would supply energy to the inland city of Shiraz. In 1975, the Bonn firm Kraftwerk Union AG, a joint venture of Siemens AG and AEG Telefunken, signed a contract worth $4 to $6 billion to build the pressurized water reactor nuclear power plant. Construction of the two 1,196 MWe nuclear generating units was subcontracted to ThyssenKrupp, and was to have been completed in 1981.
"President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'." At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense. The Ford strategy paper said the "introduction of nuclear power will both provide for the growing needs of Iran's economy and free remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran
The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program. The support, encouragement and participation of the United States and Western European governments in Iran's nuclear program continued until the 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled the Shah of Iran.
After the Iranian Revolution in 1979, the Iranian government temporarily disbanded elements of the program, and then revived it with less Western assistance than during the pre-revolution era. Iran's nuclear program has included several research sites, a uranium mine, a nuclear reactor, and uranium processing facilities that include a uranium enrichment plant.
Iran's first nuclear power plant, Bushehr I, is expected to be operational in March 2008 and delivering its maximum capacity to the nation's power grid by March 2009. There are no current plans to complete the Bushehr II reactor, although the construction of 19 nuclear power plants is envisaged. Iran has announced that it is working on a new 360 MWe nuclear power plant to be located in Darkhoyen. Iran has also indicated it that it will seek more medium-sized nuclear power plants and uranium mines for the future.
Who's scarier - bin Laden or Ben Venzke? (and a poll in a bear cage)
Who's scarier - bin Laden or Ben Venzke? (and a poll in a bear cage)
by doorguy
Sat Nov 05, 2005 at 01:33:06 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/5/4336/97041
Merchants of Fear
Osama bin Laden has been publicly silent for the longest period since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The question for U.S. intelligence: What, if anything, does it mean?
That's the first graph of this unattributed AP/NYT story that was "filed at 10:32 p.m. ET" Friday night (reg. req.).
Since the 9/11 attacks, the longest bin Laden had gone without issuing a new public statement -- audio or video -- was just over nine months. He's now let 10 months pass, and counting.
Then Ben Venzke, "chief executive at the IntelCenter, a government contractor that does support work for the intelligence community," lays down the money shot:
Bin Laden also could be plotting an attack on the United States and has made a strategic messaging decision to keep quiet in the lead-up to the attack, Venzke said.
doorguy's diary :: ::
The AP brief offers potential explanations for bin Laden's silence:
He may have decided to change the messenger. His deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, has been much more vocal, issuing seven messages this year. In years past, he and bin Laden have delivered roughly the same number of messages.
Or the earthquake in Pakistan could have inhibited bin Laden's ability to transmit messages. Or a tape could have been destroyed in the rubble. Yet al-Zawahri has managed to send out a message since the earthquake, calling on Muslims to provide aid.
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It would seem likely then that Ben Venzke is a liar, a fool, or he's feeding an unnamed AP reporter what he's been told to say by someone in "the intelligence community," in which case he'd be both.
When in doubt, google.
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...and there's the billions of dollars Republicans are spending for "homeland security." A small sliver of that and you can retire.
Does this mean we're in for a week or three of scary Osama stories? Maybe.
I'd bet an up-and-coming marketing geek at IntelCenter coaxed a toe-the-line AP hack into substantially boosting IntelCenter's image among backward local sheriffs and county managers looking for ways to spend some of their homeland security loot. That's kinda sorta what AP does for a living. So this "filed at 10:32 p.m. ET" Friday night story's probably not that big a deal.
On the other hand...
Later this month Verso is publishing Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden. The Chronicle of Higher Education has a pre-review by the book's editor, Bruce B. Lawrence, professor of Islamic studies at Duke University here.
In his pre-review, Lawrence warns that bin Laden is a powerful force:
Bin Laden's project couples faith and fighting with relentless insistence on the need to act, and his messages continue to have an appeal. Tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands revere him for his bold stand against the world's sole remaining superpower and its allies, Muslim and non-Muslim.
Ironically, during the 80s the CIA helped him to become a local hero in the Afghan war against the Soviets, but during the 90s and into the new century it was media technology that made him into an international celebrity.
Bin Laden could not have achieved global prominence without audiocassettes, the Internet, and satellite television, especially Al-Jazeera.
His legacy is more secure than his life: No matter when or how he dies, he will not easily be dislodged from his perch as the most famous/infamous Arab of the 21st century.
He is far more concerned with the glories of martyrdom than with the spoils of victory. Rewards belong essentially to the hereafter.
Bin Laden's is a creed of great purity and intensity, capable of inspiring its followers with a degree of passion and principled conviction that no secular movement in the Arab world has yet matched.
So what's worse, the scary movies Ben Venzke sells or the silence of bin Laden? Take the poll!
Poll
Who's the scariest of all?
Usama bin Laden
6% 13 votes
George Bush
26% 51 votes
Dick Cheney
46% 90 votes
Donald Rumsfeld
4% 8 votes
Karl Rove
3% 6 votes
Samalito
0% 0 votes
Ann Coulter, glistening with sweat, locked in a bear cage
7% 15 votes
Any of Scooter Libby's efforts at fiction
2% 4 votes
Armando on a tear
0% 1 votes
Who's on first.
2% 4 votes
| 192 votes | Vote | Results
by doorguy
Sat Nov 05, 2005 at 01:33:06 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/5/4336/97041
Merchants of Fear
Osama bin Laden has been publicly silent for the longest period since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The question for U.S. intelligence: What, if anything, does it mean?
That's the first graph of this unattributed AP/NYT story that was "filed at 10:32 p.m. ET" Friday night (reg. req.).
Since the 9/11 attacks, the longest bin Laden had gone without issuing a new public statement -- audio or video -- was just over nine months. He's now let 10 months pass, and counting.
Then Ben Venzke, "chief executive at the IntelCenter, a government contractor that does support work for the intelligence community," lays down the money shot:
Bin Laden also could be plotting an attack on the United States and has made a strategic messaging decision to keep quiet in the lead-up to the attack, Venzke said.
doorguy's diary :: ::
The AP brief offers potential explanations for bin Laden's silence:
He may have decided to change the messenger. His deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, has been much more vocal, issuing seven messages this year. In years past, he and bin Laden have delivered roughly the same number of messages.
Or the earthquake in Pakistan could have inhibited bin Laden's ability to transmit messages. Or a tape could have been destroyed in the rubble. Yet al-Zawahri has managed to send out a message since the earthquake, calling on Muslims to provide aid.
I've done arcane, way-out-of-the-loop commercial consulting work on marketing for several "government contractors that do support work for the intelligence community." None of them would ever use the word "intelligence" in their own positioning phrase. That's how you don't get awarded contracts -- "partnerships" in the intelligence community.
It would seem likely then that Ben Venzke is a liar, a fool, or he's feeding an unnamed AP reporter what he's been told to say by someone in "the intelligence community," in which case he'd be both.
When in doubt, google.
The most immediately visible graphic on IntelCenter's web site is a man in a ski mask wielding an anti-tank gun. Their corporate logo looks like a cross between a swastika, a film canister and a soccer ball.
Here's what this "government contractor that does support work for the intelligence community" sells online:
US GOVERNMENT (STATE & LOCAL)
TERRORISM THREAT INTEL PACKAGE
US$1,499 per user per year
This package is designed to enhance your situational awareness of the current terrorism threat environment. This package will provide you with an understanding of the types of threats you may face before they show up in your own area. Information will be provided to you on the wireless device of your choice, through email and through database access over the Internet. You will receive both Alert and Current Intelligence feeds as well as access to the full IntelCenter Database(ICD) for any research work you need to perform on various groups, individuals, incidents or other developments. Information will range from non-sensitive to law enforcement sensitive. You can order by clicking here or call 703-370-2962. All accounts will be activated within 24 hrs. of receiving your order.
Includes Full-Access to the following feeds:
FlashNet-Terrorism
World's Terrorist Groups - Intel Update (WTG-IU)
World's Intelligence Agencies - Intel Update (WIA-IU)
Terrorism Threat Monitor (TTM)
Threat & Claim Monitor (TCM)
Terrorism Source Material - Translation Feed (TSM-TF)
Significant Date Monitor (SDM)
IntelCenter Database (ICD) PRO - Web & CD-ROM
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And not one damn decoder ring. IntelCenter packages its media kits for "Government (Military, Intelligence, Federal Law Enforcement)" at $3,175 per user, "Corporate" for $2,175. The "here's what you get" message is identical for all three versions.
You gotta hand it to IntelCenter. They've coupled some savvy marketing with a mess of $39.95 DVD's...
Qaeda al-Jihad Organization in the Land of Two Rivers Videos Vol. 1 DVD: All Religion is for Allah - NEW
Volume 1 contains the 46-minute produced video from the Media Section of Qaeda al-Jihad Organization)...
...and there's the billions of dollars Republicans are spending for "homeland security." A small sliver of that and you can retire.
Does this mean we're in for a week or three of scary Osama stories? Maybe.
I'd bet an up-and-coming marketing geek at IntelCenter coaxed a toe-the-line AP hack into substantially boosting IntelCenter's image among backward local sheriffs and county managers looking for ways to spend some of their homeland security loot. That's kinda sorta what AP does for a living. So this "filed at 10:32 p.m. ET" Friday night story's probably not that big a deal.
On the other hand...
Later this month Verso is publishing Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden. The Chronicle of Higher Education has a pre-review by the book's editor, Bruce B. Lawrence, professor of Islamic studies at Duke University here.
In his pre-review, Lawrence warns that bin Laden is a powerful force:
Bin Laden's project couples faith and fighting with relentless insistence on the need to act, and his messages continue to have an appeal. Tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands revere him for his bold stand against the world's sole remaining superpower and its allies, Muslim and non-Muslim.
Ironically, during the 80s the CIA helped him to become a local hero in the Afghan war against the Soviets, but during the 90s and into the new century it was media technology that made him into an international celebrity.
Bin Laden could not have achieved global prominence without audiocassettes, the Internet, and satellite television, especially Al-Jazeera.
His legacy is more secure than his life: No matter when or how he dies, he will not easily be dislodged from his perch as the most famous/infamous Arab of the 21st century.
He is far more concerned with the glories of martyrdom than with the spoils of victory. Rewards belong essentially to the hereafter.
Bin Laden's is a creed of great purity and intensity, capable of inspiring its followers with a degree of passion and principled conviction that no secular movement in the Arab world has yet matched.
So what's worse, the scary movies Ben Venzke sells or the silence of bin Laden? Take the poll!
Poll
Who's the scariest of all?
Usama bin Laden
6% 13 votes
George Bush
26% 51 votes
Dick Cheney
46% 90 votes
Donald Rumsfeld
4% 8 votes
Karl Rove
3% 6 votes
Samalito
0% 0 votes
Ann Coulter, glistening with sweat, locked in a bear cage
7% 15 votes
Any of Scooter Libby's efforts at fiction
2% 4 votes
Armando on a tear
0% 1 votes
Who's on first.
2% 4 votes
| 192 votes | Vote | Results
History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps
History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps
TocqueDeville
Daily Kos
July 27, 2008
So what if I told you that the powers of financial capitalism (bankers etc.), had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands, able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it - behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations?
TocqueDeville’s diary
And what if I told you they had succeeded?
Wow! The most powerful bankers creating a world system of financial control, dominating the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole, with secret meetings. Surely you would think Tocque has fallen under the spell of a wild conspiracy theory.
But you can put away the cat in the tinfoil hat. Those are not my words. And it’s not a theory. They are the words of one of the greatest, most eminent historians in modern times, the late Carroll Quigley - of Harvard, Princeton and the Georgetown Foreign School.
Here is Bill Clinton referring to his former college professor Quigley at the 1992 Democratic convention:
"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest nation in history because our people had always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
Quigley could write credibly about the far reaching aims of these ruling elites because he himself was a member of the ruling class and, as such, he was given unprecedented access to their private files and records. When he published these words in his 1300 page tome, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, not only was he adding to the historical record a previously untold story, he was making history himself in doing so.
The story I am about to share is critically important. One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it - behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world. And it is only with this historical understanding that we can understand the forces shaping our world, and possibly hope to affect them.
The time for the common man, or at the very least the educated political class like us, to be let in on the secret has long since passed. To take our country back, we must know who exactly we are taking it back from. And we must know what their real agenda is, and their methods for achieving it. It is simply unacceptable in this information age for so many to be oblivious to the real forces of political power, and to allow those forces to operate in secrecy.
These excerpts from Quigley are just the beginning. And while his revelations are about the financial powers of the early 20th Century, they are essential for understanding the power structures that exist today.
Perhaps most importantly, his revelations help us recognize that there is indeed a power class, working behind the scenes, acting upon our government, the mass media and education to bring about a world that is very much contrary to the interests and aims of the public.
The Historian Spills the Beans
Tragedy and Hope is not a book about the ruling class, and it is certainly not a "conspiracy" book. It is, as its title says, a history of the modern world. Quigley has merely reinserted the role of the ruling powers back into the narrative where they belong for any accurate account.
But in the process, Quigley drops a number of bombshells. And I don’t mean two week press cycle bombshells. I mean rewrite history bombshells. Here is an incredibly brief synopsis of some of them, followed by the relevant excerptions. (I have linked to the excerpt that corresponds to each item. Just click the number to quickly scroll down.)
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BOMBSHELL #1
Cecil Rhodes, the founder of De Beers and creator of the Rhodes’ Trust (of which the Rhodes’ Scholarship is a part) formed a secret society with some of the wealthiest and most powerful men in Britain and New York. The primary goal of this group was to federate the English speaking world and to expand the British empire. The structure of this society was an inner circle of "initiates" and outer circles of "helpers." The outer circles were called Round Table groups.
This was during the Gilded Age and it is difficult to even comprehend the wealth of these people (I posted a pic of one of their houses just to convey). And to truly understand their aims, you have to appreciate the reach of their industry. These were the first globalists of the modern era and their vision was breathtaking in scope. They sought to create a transnational trading system that would allow them unfettered access to markets and resources worldwide with minimal red tape. In essence, they were the pioneers of globalization and national sovereignty and colonial unrest was their primary impediment.
It appears the specific goals of this group evolved over the years, and their dream of a world federation gave way to a softer, more subtle alignment. But one can only describe their general aim of recalibrating the political environment, consisting of most major nations, into a global free trading system as being highly successful.
We are witnessing now the fruition of a plan set in motion over a century ago, conceived in secret, and implemented over multiple generations. And while the modern world certainly differs from that imagined by these founders, they are truly the architects of what we may call the Anglo-American empire that thrives today. They laid the foundation, both for the transnational banking and industrial system we have now, and for the methods of exerting the power to create that system.
Intermission
At this point, if this isn’t blowing your mind a bit, it’s because you already know all about Carroll Quigley and his revelations, you haven’t been reading carefully, or you think I’m off my rocker. Let me assure you, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I have zero interest in secret societies. Skull and Bones bores me. My only interest in the ruling class is their subversion, for their own aims, of American democracy, and the many crimes against humanity and nature they commit daily around the world.
It is only to the extent that they are a force in politics that I have any interest at all. Through my involvement in the entertainment industry and academic associations I have known more than a few in the ruling class (mostly their offspring) and I can tell you unequivocally that they are not all evil, Bohemian Grove is not a cult but a fancy camping trip, and that almost all the conspiracy theories you will find on the interenet are wrong. There is, as far as I know, no Illuminati or any other such bullshit. And this is not the X-Files.
What we have is pluralism meets feudalism with a hefty amount of mafia thrown in. The ruling class in the early 20th Century, as it is now, was not monolithic. And in spite of their working together to bring about one globalized order, they often compete and work against each other, just like any other political bloc. It is imperative to understand, this is not a conspiracy. It was in its conception. And the powerful certainly conspire and collude daily. But "globalization" is a movement, not too unlike the progressive movement. The difference is the globalists have literally trillions of dollars, euros, and pounds to throw around on their campaign.
BOMBSHELL #2
The Council on Foreign Relations was a front organization for this group. This shouldn’t come as any surprise. The CFR is known well now as a trade lobby. And many also already have a pretty good idea of their role in empire maintenance. But to discover their secret origins was one of Quigley’s greatest finds. And if one has any doubt about the power of the CFR, one merely has to read this bit of homespun wisdom spoken on the Senate floor from Senator Earnest Hollings (D) of South Carolina (Congressional Record, June 30, 1993, S8315):
If you ever run for President, you get very wonderful, embossed invitations from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, and you get the coffee and fine china, and, man, you are really a high muckety-muck.
And then what they do is get you to swear on the altar of free trade an undying loyalty and support—free trade, free trade. That is all they want. And they co-opt every one of these young Senators that want to run for President.
In England, the front is called the Royal Institute of International Affairs or Chatham House.
BOMBSHELL #3
Here Quigley describes the methods the group uses to implement its far reaching aims. I’m going to revisit this part in my next post. But this should be of special interest to us all. In fact, I place this as the most important of all of Quigley’s revelations.
"The methods can be summed up under three headings:
(a) a triple-front penetration in politics, education, and journalism;
(b) the recruitment of men of ability (chiefly from [certain universities) and the linking of these men to the [Group] by matrimonial alliances and by gratitude for titles and positions of power; and
(c) the influencing of public policy by placing members of the [Group] in positions of power shielded as much as possible from public attention. (Carroll Quigley - The Anglo American Establishment
Thus the title of this diary - Three Easy Steps. This movement has penetrated every power structure civilized life - from politics of course, to journalism (See bombshell #4), and even down to our schools and universities, all with the goal of facilitating their control.
More- http://www.infowars.com/?p=3601
TocqueDeville
Daily Kos
July 27, 2008
So what if I told you that the powers of financial capitalism (bankers etc.), had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands, able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it - behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations?
TocqueDeville’s diary
And what if I told you they had succeeded?
Wow! The most powerful bankers creating a world system of financial control, dominating the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole, with secret meetings. Surely you would think Tocque has fallen under the spell of a wild conspiracy theory.
But you can put away the cat in the tinfoil hat. Those are not my words. And it’s not a theory. They are the words of one of the greatest, most eminent historians in modern times, the late Carroll Quigley - of Harvard, Princeton and the Georgetown Foreign School.
Here is Bill Clinton referring to his former college professor Quigley at the 1992 Democratic convention:
"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest nation in history because our people had always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
Quigley could write credibly about the far reaching aims of these ruling elites because he himself was a member of the ruling class and, as such, he was given unprecedented access to their private files and records. When he published these words in his 1300 page tome, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, not only was he adding to the historical record a previously untold story, he was making history himself in doing so.
The story I am about to share is critically important. One simply cannot understand politics without understanding the significant role the ruling class plays in it - behind the scenes, and beyond the grasp of democratic oversight. Quigley is an essential introduction to what I call the adult history of the world. And it is only with this historical understanding that we can understand the forces shaping our world, and possibly hope to affect them.
The time for the common man, or at the very least the educated political class like us, to be let in on the secret has long since passed. To take our country back, we must know who exactly we are taking it back from. And we must know what their real agenda is, and their methods for achieving it. It is simply unacceptable in this information age for so many to be oblivious to the real forces of political power, and to allow those forces to operate in secrecy.
These excerpts from Quigley are just the beginning. And while his revelations are about the financial powers of the early 20th Century, they are essential for understanding the power structures that exist today.
Perhaps most importantly, his revelations help us recognize that there is indeed a power class, working behind the scenes, acting upon our government, the mass media and education to bring about a world that is very much contrary to the interests and aims of the public.
The Historian Spills the Beans
Tragedy and Hope is not a book about the ruling class, and it is certainly not a "conspiracy" book. It is, as its title says, a history of the modern world. Quigley has merely reinserted the role of the ruling powers back into the narrative where they belong for any accurate account.
But in the process, Quigley drops a number of bombshells. And I don’t mean two week press cycle bombshells. I mean rewrite history bombshells. Here is an incredibly brief synopsis of some of them, followed by the relevant excerptions. (I have linked to the excerpt that corresponds to each item. Just click the number to quickly scroll down.)
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BOMBSHELL #1
Cecil Rhodes, the founder of De Beers and creator of the Rhodes’ Trust (of which the Rhodes’ Scholarship is a part) formed a secret society with some of the wealthiest and most powerful men in Britain and New York. The primary goal of this group was to federate the English speaking world and to expand the British empire. The structure of this society was an inner circle of "initiates" and outer circles of "helpers." The outer circles were called Round Table groups.
This was during the Gilded Age and it is difficult to even comprehend the wealth of these people (I posted a pic of one of their houses just to convey). And to truly understand their aims, you have to appreciate the reach of their industry. These were the first globalists of the modern era and their vision was breathtaking in scope. They sought to create a transnational trading system that would allow them unfettered access to markets and resources worldwide with minimal red tape. In essence, they were the pioneers of globalization and national sovereignty and colonial unrest was their primary impediment.
It appears the specific goals of this group evolved over the years, and their dream of a world federation gave way to a softer, more subtle alignment. But one can only describe their general aim of recalibrating the political environment, consisting of most major nations, into a global free trading system as being highly successful.
We are witnessing now the fruition of a plan set in motion over a century ago, conceived in secret, and implemented over multiple generations. And while the modern world certainly differs from that imagined by these founders, they are truly the architects of what we may call the Anglo-American empire that thrives today. They laid the foundation, both for the transnational banking and industrial system we have now, and for the methods of exerting the power to create that system.
Intermission
At this point, if this isn’t blowing your mind a bit, it’s because you already know all about Carroll Quigley and his revelations, you haven’t been reading carefully, or you think I’m off my rocker. Let me assure you, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I have zero interest in secret societies. Skull and Bones bores me. My only interest in the ruling class is their subversion, for their own aims, of American democracy, and the many crimes against humanity and nature they commit daily around the world.
It is only to the extent that they are a force in politics that I have any interest at all. Through my involvement in the entertainment industry and academic associations I have known more than a few in the ruling class (mostly their offspring) and I can tell you unequivocally that they are not all evil, Bohemian Grove is not a cult but a fancy camping trip, and that almost all the conspiracy theories you will find on the interenet are wrong. There is, as far as I know, no Illuminati or any other such bullshit. And this is not the X-Files.
What we have is pluralism meets feudalism with a hefty amount of mafia thrown in. The ruling class in the early 20th Century, as it is now, was not monolithic. And in spite of their working together to bring about one globalized order, they often compete and work against each other, just like any other political bloc. It is imperative to understand, this is not a conspiracy. It was in its conception. And the powerful certainly conspire and collude daily. But "globalization" is a movement, not too unlike the progressive movement. The difference is the globalists have literally trillions of dollars, euros, and pounds to throw around on their campaign.
BOMBSHELL #2
The Council on Foreign Relations was a front organization for this group. This shouldn’t come as any surprise. The CFR is known well now as a trade lobby. And many also already have a pretty good idea of their role in empire maintenance. But to discover their secret origins was one of Quigley’s greatest finds. And if one has any doubt about the power of the CFR, one merely has to read this bit of homespun wisdom spoken on the Senate floor from Senator Earnest Hollings (D) of South Carolina (Congressional Record, June 30, 1993, S8315):
If you ever run for President, you get very wonderful, embossed invitations from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, and you get the coffee and fine china, and, man, you are really a high muckety-muck.
And then what they do is get you to swear on the altar of free trade an undying loyalty and support—free trade, free trade. That is all they want. And they co-opt every one of these young Senators that want to run for President.
In England, the front is called the Royal Institute of International Affairs or Chatham House.
BOMBSHELL #3
Here Quigley describes the methods the group uses to implement its far reaching aims. I’m going to revisit this part in my next post. But this should be of special interest to us all. In fact, I place this as the most important of all of Quigley’s revelations.
"The methods can be summed up under three headings:
(a) a triple-front penetration in politics, education, and journalism;
(b) the recruitment of men of ability (chiefly from [certain universities) and the linking of these men to the [Group] by matrimonial alliances and by gratitude for titles and positions of power; and
(c) the influencing of public policy by placing members of the [Group] in positions of power shielded as much as possible from public attention. (Carroll Quigley - The Anglo American Establishment
Thus the title of this diary - Three Easy Steps. This movement has penetrated every power structure civilized life - from politics of course, to journalism (See bombshell #4), and even down to our schools and universities, all with the goal of facilitating their control.
More- http://www.infowars.com/?p=3601
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